Second To None In The USA And Canada

The compilation "2nd To None" ends up at #3 both in the USA and Canada. Last year "ELV1S 30 #1 Hits" sold a combined 563,000 in the first week in both countries and was #1, this year the new album sells a combined 193,000 copies. It looks like Elvis fans in general are a bit pessimistic, since the "independent" Hollywoodreporter website cheered about the sales of "2nd To None": "RCA Music Group's latest Elvis Presley compilation "Elvis 2nd to None," which features a Paul Oakenfold remix of "Rubberneckin'," makes an impressive debut at No. 3 on 181,350 copies sold."
Source: Various / Updated: Oct 16, 2003 

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8735 (profilecontact) wrote on Oct 20, 2003report abuse
From the single to the cd the sell was an unsuccefull because they didn´t used the promotion means of today, and is a dead singer. The first place on billboard and in other places was for the alive, smart, younest singers.
Pharamond (profilecontact) wrote on Oct 20, 2003report abuse
To Tonyp i was talking about the releases when Elvis was allive. Lp's that came afther Aloha where no big hits. I'was not refuring to the period afther Elvis died. I have seen it all before , the period from 1973 untill August 1977 promotion for Elvis records was 0. We had the same problem then, one release afther another compilations that took the intrest away from the new material and no airplay for the new songs.
To gribz:Why has Moody Blue been at N°3? I will tell you why, because Elvis died, otherwise it would not have made the top 20 in the USA Top 100 albums. An Elvis album afther Aloha was good for a place between 30 and 50 in the USA Top 100 somethimes even worse and sold afther one year around 500000. I am talking about the top 100 album chart and not the Country chart. And look at the positions in the UK album chart, if an album afther Aloha made the UK charts it was only for a few weeks and mostly a top 40 or 50 place.
TonyP (profilecontact) wrote on Oct 20, 2003report abuse
It is inaccurate to suggest that prior to Aloha and pre # 30 No 1 hits, Elvis had no hit albums in the UK. Is everyone forgetting the following top five albums?:
Greatest Hits - 1988
From the Heart - 1992-3
The Essential Elvis Collection - around 1994-5
50 Greatest Love Songs - Late 90s
There may have been more. Second to None looks like it may achieve the kind of sales the latter three did in the UK, rather than take off like # 30 No 1 hits. That's hardly surprising. As someone has already said, many people are happy to have one greatest hits album in their collection. Look at your own record collection! I'm sure there are certain bands/singers who are represented by only one album and no amount of advertising would make you shell out more cash. Sure the album would have sold more copies with better advertising, but how many more? Enough to cover the budget of a huge advertising effort by BMG? This is a commercial world we live in and I'm not remotely surprised that this album has been a little more word of mouth than last year's.
gribz (profilecontact) wrote on Oct 19, 2003report abuse
I am talking about the 'Moody Blue Album', not the song..I am pretty certain the Album went to number 3 in Oct.77...
ccrider (profilecontact) wrote on Oct 19, 2003report abuse
Jim Semple, if you don't want to offend anyone why do you keep leaving your negative, small-minded comments all the time? Using your theory the fact that Elvis 30 No 1s has sold 9,000,000 copies worldwide since it's release a year ago should mean that 2nd to None will sell millions without any advertising! The great majority of people on this planet are happy just to have the one, single disc Elvis compilation and won't bother buying anymore no matter how much advertising you throw at it. You keep criticising BMG yet if they are so bad how come 30 No 1s was so succesful? It wasn't just the music otherwise why weren't all the other Elvis compilations that have been released during the last couple of decades been as popular? More Elvis CDs have been sold in the last year than have been for a very long time, (no mean feat considering he's not producing any new material!), yet according to the likes of you BMG are doing a bad job! Let us true Elvis fans enjoy his return to the top of the charts and celebrate what is and not moan about what could be. Nothing lasts for ever man!
Pharamond (profilecontact) wrote on Oct 18, 2003report abuse
This is not an old song for the people, for most people that buy this are from a whole new generation. Rubbernecking is not called a remix for nothing. If you do'nt use the promotion means of today , then you do'nt have to expect things to sell as well as they could.
This song is in a lot of county's a big dance hit, do you really believe those dancers are all old people or Elvis fans? And for Kylie i believe she sell's more by showing a lot in a video clip. That is true for a lot of clips these day's but the music is forgotten afher a few months.
corey3rd (profilecontact) wrote on Oct 18, 2003report abuse
You can't compare the promotional effort given the lastest Kylie single to "2nd to None." Kylie is alive and it's not a 30 year old song that is being sold. The only thing you can compare the push for "2nd to None" is a band that has broken up or a fellow dead singer. Elvis is getting a bigger push than Steve Miller's latest greatest hits collection. The guys at BMG know how much money they need to make off "2nd to None" to make it very successful. Last year was a peak moment - the Nike ad, the 25th anniversary, Lilo and Stitch and "Elv1s." Enjoy it for what it was. Don't expect it to be repeated every year. "E3" will probably sell even less.
Pharamond (profilecontact) wrote on Oct 18, 2003report abuse
To gribz Moody Blue was not a number 3 in the USA hot 100 it only reached the top 30 . It did better in the USA country charts. We had the same problem then, no promotion for a single and poor airplay on the radio. Only Elvis dead made Way down a number 1 in the UK and it made only a number 18 in the USA hot 100 afther it was down from a peak in the top 30 just like Moody blue. Albums after Aloha only just made the top 50 in the Hot 100 album list in the USA and in the UK. Why, because Elvis was almost dead on the radio stations. Now we had a revival with A.L.L.C. thanks to NIKE but if BMG RCA makes no promotion you w'ont see much action in sales afther a short while. The new single from Kily Minogue Slow has yet to come out and they are showing the clip on TV 50 times a day. And i for one think it is not even a good song, Rubbernecking is much better,but promotion for it is great and that makes a big difference in sales. To Jim Semple, i agree with a lot of things you say but i am sure 2nd to none will sell 5000000 copies but it could have been a lot more. And to Elvis fans, yes i like to see Elvis in the charts , so stop giving us a lot of compilations, we need one big one a year ? FTD is for fans only , but BMG stop putting the same things in other sleeves, give us what we need a great single and a great CD a year and Elvis high in the charts.
elvisavenue (profilecontact) wrote on Oct 18, 2003report abuse
hello folks in my country , France, the marketing effort is ok . you can see some tv and radio ads ("and the 8th day, God created Elvis...." first line of the radio ad) , on the biggest market places you can find easily the cd . i don't think we can compare "2nd to none" to "E1" . the first one has created a new standar for an elvis release , and a good one ! never before , an elvis compilation has had such a blasting success . it's normal that the following cds do not meet the same level of sales , "E1" was almost "too" successful , everything after will seem to be a minor copy : this is what the general public idea, for sure . I don't want to put down "2nd to none" , it's a real great release but less spectacular . BMG , with "2nd" wants to use the same tricks to make money (same kind of design, a remix ) and it's normal .
Even if "2nd" is not as successful as "E1" , there's a new elvis trend now . think about the fact that before "E1" nobody cares about any elvis compilation (they were bad too , it's true !) . "2nd to none" might has been released too closed to "E1" . anyway, it's a very fine collection of great songs . enjoy .
gribz (profilecontact) wrote on Oct 18, 2003report abuse
Moody Blue, in 1977, reached number 3 in the U S A, and a few others did as well in the 70's, in the UK..
jeremytcb (profilecontact) wrote on Oct 17, 2003report abuse
Sorry, forgot Aloha reached #1, but before that is was Roustabout. BMG if you are out there...thanks for these albums, thanks for the remixes, thanks for FTD...
jeremytcb (profilecontact) wrote on Oct 17, 2003report abuse
Like I said, with the exception of 30 #1 Hits, you have to go back to 1964 to find an Elvis album that reached higher on the charts - 40 YEARS! That is the one clear cut fact in all of this. This album ain't gonna have the appeal of the last one folks no matter what the promotion!
gribz (profilecontact) wrote on Oct 17, 2003report abuse
The song selection is great.. The songs are all big hits as far as I am concerned, and I think it is good for the casual fan to get to hear Elvis sing other songs beside the 10 or 15 that radio stations have on rotation. There are so many great songs that show Elvis's tremendous emotional expression, with his Soul coming right through his person. '2nd to none' gives the listener some of that..
Jim Semple (profilecontact) wrote on Oct 17, 2003report abuse
I don't wish to offend anyone, but whoever thinks 2nd To None and Rubberneckin are brilliant successes, you must be really naive. Sales have been generally very very poor, all down to the non existent promotion and marketing. Don't people realise that the next Elvis release after 2nd To None will sell even worse figures and it will go on and on like that. On the otherhand, if we had the promotion Elvis deserved, we would be looking at sales of around 5 million for 2nd To None (we'll be lucky to hit 1 million) but more importantly, it would be fresh in peoples minds and consequently they would go out and buy the next release etc. I can honestly say, unless you are a hardcore Elvis fan who studies websites like this, you will have absolutely no idea, that 2nd To None is in the shops. And we have every right to complain, because Elvis deserves so much better. Forget all the nonsense about the the good work of BMG and EPE, its all down to the loyal fans who keep paying good money for these releases. Dont even get me started on the Aloha and Comeback Special DVD's !!
corey3rd (profilecontact) wrote on Oct 17, 2003report abuse
The car ad has been playing a lot on my TV. I have also seen the 30 and 60 ad for "2nd to None" on various cable channels - including MTV. But honestly, this is not the same as pushing "Elv1s." Both Best Buy and Target had the cds priced for $9.99 - including the bonus disc. There was a lot of buzz about I'm a Roustabout. But it comes down to one simple fact: this isn't packed with the hits. that's not saying the song selection was poor, but it's easy to get a casual listener to buy the cd that has Hound dog and Don't be Cruel - or to give it as a gift to someone. BMG has done as much as it can with a cd of an artist that can't go on talkshows or tour Clear Channel sheds. BMG doesn't want to lose all it's profits by carpet bombing ads. They have three more installments on this series.
Pharamond (profilecontact) wrote on Oct 17, 2003report abuse
To Lyle Ray : start living in the real world, look around and start looking at Tv , how many times did you see the Elvis clip? That is the real world. It is great to see Elvis in the charts, but it could be a lot better, how long do you expect things to last if you do'nt start promoting in the right way, we have seen it before , remember the early seventies , after a while singles went by unnoticed, why do you think that was so? Aloha could have been a great promotion for things to follow, look what a mess they made of that. Rubbernecking is good, but it should have been out a lot sooner in front of the full CD, with much more airplay and video clip on radio and TV.
You do'nt live in the real world if you do'nt want to know how it is out there. Go on like this and things will soon be as they have been for the last 20 years.
lovius (profilecontact) wrote on Oct 17, 2003report abuse
Let Yourself Go and Got a Feeling in my Body would have made better remixed singles. Rubberneckin is too tuneful and that is fatal nowadays. The remix is also not as good as a LLC.
lray (profilecontact) wrote on Oct 17, 2003report abuse
You said it Jeremy. Good to see someone using this site that lives in the real world. Elvis is doing great!!
LonnieBeale (profilecontact) wrote on Oct 17, 2003report abuse
I said it before and I'll say it again. The promotion for the single and 2nd to none has been pathetic. What is the problem with these guys who have no idea in my mind how to promote Elvis.Reminds me of the time in 1968 when R.C.A. released "Why can't everyday be like Xmas" 1 week before Xmas day. Although I have noticed "Rubbernecking "used daily on one of the Phillippine musical /game shows and that is the only place I have heard it. It's pathetic when overseas countries promote Elvis better than the U.S.A,and this has always been so,pity the Colonel didn't see the golden opportunities of touring Elvis there more than the hick towns he played here.
jeremytcb (profilecontact) wrote on Oct 16, 2003report abuse
Well, I am going to side with BMG on this one. First. let me say that prior to 30 #1 Hits, we would have been ecstatic if an Elvis album reached number three on the charts! Number #3 folks! That is better than: The Comeback album, From Elvis in Memphis, Onstage, MSG, and tons of other great Elvis albums - and this is over 25 years after his death. I have seen promo posters, buttons, foldouts, flyers, and lots of other things. The promotion is fine from what I can tell. 2nd to None is not going to have the same appeal as an album of all Elvis #1's - that is a one time deal and is not going to be repeated. It is performing great for what it is - a reasonable second helping.
tcbelvisbe (profilecontact) wrote on Oct 16, 2003report abuse
Where was the commercial; Like last year with ALLC?? Lets hope its going to be better with E3!!
Null (profilecontact) wrote on Oct 16, 2003report abuse
If you don't advertise,you don't know it is out there. Also did the Rubberneckin' commercial go bye bye?,Bmg made a mistake on the version they picked on this track, remember when That's all right was released it was a risk,well bmg needed to risk a better version than Oakenfold's they had some much better versions from what i have heard,oh well let's hope for the best. Wonder what vol.3 will hold in the series of hits and misses
Jim Semple (profilecontact) wrote on Oct 16, 2003report abuse
As I keep saying, if people don't know its out there, they will not buy it. If 2nd To None sells 1 million copies worldwide, it will be lucky. Such a shame really. Sales normally fly in the first few weeks but this will slowly decline into poor figures. And that is all down to the zero promotion. Who in the right mind starts an advertising campaign AFTER the product has been released?? Crazy.
Steve B. (profilecontact) wrote on Oct 15, 2003report abuse
Certainly, I am hoping "2nd to None" will be another SMASH!193,000 copies moved, for a singer that has been dead for over a quarter of a century, ain't bad.
gribz (profilecontact) wrote on Oct 15, 2003report abuse
I am a little disapointed. I expected at least 300 thousand for first week sales in the USA.. Well, unlike last years 'Elvis 30's, that went triple platinim by January 8th( Elvis's Bithday), We are lucky if we go platinum with 1 million in sales by January 8th, 2004. Maybe if BMG does a heavy holiday promotion we will do better. Just Hoping.

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