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Elvis 2nd To Ciara

January 23, 2005 | Music
Elvis came in second to Ciara feat. Petey Pablo with the single "Goodies". The single "One Night" dropped to #20. That drop sets a new record of its own by tumbling 1-20 as the biggest ever fall from Number One, although having said that it still fares better than last weeks Number 2 hit 'Empty Souls' from the Manics which slides 2-26. "Jailhouse Rock" dropped to #50 from #10.

A possible #1 next week will be a problem, since the Tsunami Aid single will be out then (and widely available). Also out are singles by Delta Goodrem and Brian Mcfadden which get major airplay.

Elvis should make Top 5 though, which is in line with the original aims for the singles re-releases (more Top 10 and 20 Hits for Elvis than any other artist).

Additional update from CoolClarity:

After taking the number one position for two weeks in a row with reissues of former chart toppers, the ghost of Elvis Presley gets a rude awakening this week, with what was expected to be another number one - A Fool Such As I - faltering at the last minute, and having to settle for a number two debut, writes Alan Jones.

In Presley's stead is Ciara, whose Goodies put on a late surge, selling 6,238 copies on Saturday to take its week's sales to 21,128, while the increasingly hard to find, limited edition Presley single added a miserable 1,236 sales to its tally, to total 20,002 for the week.
Ciara's tally is 3.2% up on the all-time low number one tally of 20,463 which won One Night/I Got Stung the distinction of being Presley's 20th number one and the chart's 1,000th champion last week.
Source:Various
Viva wrote on January 23, 2005
Well number 2 is still a great achievement, but it still leaves a bitter taste in the mouth when you consider that number one was easily attainable, and there is NO REASON for this single not to do the business, except for the abominal conduct and lack of vision from EPE (the whole video thing), TOTP (for the insult that was Fridays show and subsequent relegation of Elvis to a joke) and the complete shambles of the BMG release policy. I've always felt that the greatest tragedy of Elvis' career was that we only ever saw half of what he was capable of - as a result of awful management and an even poorer understanding of his talent by RCA. When he was alive, Elvis' artistic abilities were stifled and restricted. Now it seems, once again, we can only talk about the POTENTIAL success of these releases, the reality of which will be less than it should have been. But why complain? 2 No1's and 1 No2, in three weeks? what's wrong with you viva you miserable sod? I'll tell you what's wrong: Once again we have been sold short and let down by people who publicly claim to care for the continuation of Elvis' legacy and long for a greater public understanding of his talent, when in reality they consistantly fall short in a number of areas and do little to promote the very person they claim to care so much about. Just to clarify: Yes, what a great achievement, absolutely fantastic. No one else could have done it. But to repeat the old adage: These are a success IN SPITE of epe & (partly) bmg - not because of them. The success of this whole release package could have been SO much better. Long Live The King.
Sidewinder wrote on January 23, 2005
At least we will not have to suffer the TOTP travesty for a second week - not that I would have watched it anyway!
Elvis Express wrote on January 23, 2005
Just to carry on the insults to Elvis, the UK top 40 presenter on TV actually said that the Elvis songs were getting boring and he was glad the King didn't get to Number One with 'A Fool Such As I'. Well done Elvis for yet another TOP 10 hit and a HUGH well done to fellow UK Elvis fans who have given our man such a great start to 2005.
I am Buffalo-Horn! wrote on January 23, 2005
The reason this has not got to number one is simple. Very few fans have been able to buy it. This is the first Elvis single myself & many other collectors have not been able to find anywhere. For instance, last week most Woolworths got 6 copies of 'One Night', this week they only got 3 copies of "A Fool" to sell, same with many other shops. How on earth do BMG/RCA think people can buy the record if they do not supply the shops? This is a disaster, make no bones about it, & it is not due to Ebay or us fans – it is due to sheer incompetence at the record company. I also feel the so called extra stocks are a complete lie, they are not telling us the truth. Doubtless we will now get another complacent email from 'Administration' on the 18 no1's site, full of excuses, & excusing themselves of any blame. Whatever they come up with the blame lies squarely on their duplicitous shoulders.
ttwiise wrote on January 23, 2005
Well done VIVA I couldn`t have said it better myself. Just think of how many more it would have sold if we could buy it! I still don`t have one. And how could One night still be number 19 It hasn`t been seen in a shop all week!
roytcbintheuk wrote on January 23, 2005
viva i aggree with you 100% "it could have been better" dont we seem to say that a lot when it is down marketing and promoting elvis and let me respond to todds comment ion ttwii the reason that it did not do as well as it could have is because they was only limited screenings and only certain cinemas showing ttwii i and i dont know about anyone else but i never saw any trailers on tv and with regards to the dvd for the same film what fool shows it on sky tv before it is released on dvd i think the company as now made a profit on this movie and probably as nothing to do with on tour having the same treatment at the end of the day all you have to look at is the success of the aloha and 68 comeback dvds or by the way epe managed to cock that up as well by ommitting it hurts me from the 68 comeback tut tut anyway well done elvis for reaching #2
pacer1965 wrote on January 23, 2005
Why does this not surprise me. I just new that A fool such As I would not get to no 1. It was impossible to get this single from any music shop. My son got a cd single on friday of A fool such as I and it was numbered. It would not surprise me if they were trying to stop Elvis from getting to no 1 again.It does make you think though why were the other singles that were released easier to get than A fool such As I ? Dont worry about it roytcbintheuk they will probably release the 68 special se2 in a couple of years. So EPE can get some more money out of us poor fans. Well done to the king for getting to number 2. from a proud Elvis fan !
Jim Semple wrote on January 23, 2005
Sounds more like a stitch up by the second. I honestly believe the powers of be within the music industry, simply would not allow another Elvis hit to go to Number 1 for the third consectutive week. They are so scared that all the kids, will get really pi$$ed off with it all, and no longer support the chart. PS - sold 20,002 copies? Who too? Elvis!? Nobody in this country could buy them !!
loftmanuk wrote on January 23, 2005
Can someone help me out here. Was there supposed to be 20,000 Cd's and 10,000 vinyl copies each week for each release (or am I wrong). If so how come you can't get a copy anywhere in the shops for love or money, and yet the latest single still only sold 20,002. Am I missing something here. As a fan since 68 I as much as anyone is so pleased to see our man were he deserves to be . At the top. So why am I getting a nasty feeling that this whole re-issue thing has just become a joke. I suppose after all those years I should have known better. Still no Top of the pops to worry about this week now.
Glenny boy wrote on January 23, 2005
im cheesed off with the whole thing, been a fan since i can remember, and although this gives me no divine right to be able to get any singles i find it a right kick in the stomach. I give up i shan't even spend time to look for anymore singles Thanks BMG/RCA, thanks for rewarding me for 40 years loyal patronage, just where are the missing 10000 singles???
ttwiise wrote on January 23, 2005
It`s a stitch up Ciara sells almost a third of her total on the last day and EP has 10000 singles unaccounted for.... Oliver Stone there is a movie to be made here.....
stu wrote on January 23, 2005
Many copies of AFSAI were sold on e-bay the week before the singles were officially released and many more are still on sale there now. If employees and managers at music retailers have been making multiple purchases before the singles even go on sale, they must surely have committed some sort of fraud because they musn't have even been put through the tills. This sort of thing is bound to impact on Elvis' chart placings and would explain why AFSAI is not the No1 single this week.
Yves Rescalat wrote on January 23, 2005
Elvis not being number one this week is BMG's fault: retailers shops were almost sold out on the first day with 13500 copies sold. Early tuesday it seemed very hard for the casual buyer to find any copies left. On friday CIARA was round 6000 sales behind Elvis: then BMG did knew then that if they didnt't restock for saturday, Elvis would be overtaken almost certainly. If stocks were refurnished friday or saturday Elvis with certainty would have been achieved its third number one in a row! Everyone was expected Elvis to be on top this week also:To prove this right several newspapers have announced before the official chart being revealed that Elvis was on top for the third time! BMG let this history mark pass them by: wether this was or not volonteer they showed for sure their total icompetence!
Mofoca22 wrote on January 23, 2005
why is there such nasty sabotage to being done to elvis. half the singers of 2day stink are they jealous elvis is still more popular than everyone around? the only other dead artist that comes close to elvis' popularity is johnny cash. i cant believe either that there not selling mass quanities of the singles thats just wrong. heck back in 2001-2004 u can find every single they had such as if i can dream ( the 9-11 commeration for red cross donation) then a little less conversation, then rubberneckin and then thats all right. bmg is very poorly run always has been, too bad he didnt sign with a different record company when he was young like columbia or something cuz rca has done injustice to him.
LuckyJackson wrote on January 23, 2005
Is there anyway of getting in touch with you guys who need a copy of AFSAI cd? Due to a friend getting me one, I have a spare copy (miracle I know!!) I do not want to sell it on Ebay!I want it to go to a genuine fan and only at the price paid (4.99 plus postage) I know its against rules to put email address on here, any suggestions?
shakyelvis wrote on January 24, 2005
Guys, Well done to the King on another Top 5 hit (the sixth in 3 years). Not bad for someone who has been dead for 28 years. If you want to exchange singles just go to the website advertised on all the black stickers placed on the singles. On this website you will find the swapshop, where all the releases can be exchanged. Let's take INON to #1. I heard the Tsunami single on Radio 2, and it's not great. It's selling point is the cause (which is a good one) and the artistes.
Eddie White wrote on January 24, 2005
I'm willing to bet that Elvis will not be numero uno for atlest five weeks
pacer1965 wrote on January 24, 2005
In the charts Elvis has four singles in the top 75 in the uk: no 2 A Fool such As I no 20 One Night no 50 Jailhouse Rock and no 59 Thats Alright !
Eddie White wrote on January 24, 2005
Pacer. I\m talking about numero uno
pacer1965 wrote on January 24, 2005
Hi Eddie at this rate Elvis wont get any more no 1s because nobody can get hold of the singles
Eddie White wrote on January 24, 2005
Pacer. This has been a total cock up from start to finish. I\ve been an Elvis fan now for 45 years and although we should be proud that he\s still making headlines 27 years after his death, this latest episode beggars belief. As Todd Slaughter reminds us there are alot more important things in life like sudden death but, hey, I\m still around and Elvis is still very important in my life. Of course I can complain about my life and the rest of the world including the BBc and EPE but I'll stick up for the KIng anyday. Oh, I forgot, yes you're right.
darcy wrote on January 24, 2005
I know Elvis has the most no 1's but an article I read celebrating the 1000th no 1 stated Paul McCartney as having the most no 1's as they combined the Beatles/Wings and solo efforts... this made a total of 22 no 1's. Hope Elvis can get another 3 so there is no doubt at all who has the most.
Elvis girl wrote on January 24, 2005
A fool such as i would have made number 1 if like a lot of you have already said on here there were enough copies in the shops i for one am still trying to get it on CD. I am so gutted that Elvis lost out this week especially to that nonsense that has got to number 1!
CD King wrote on January 24, 2005
Elvis 2nd To Ciara? ELVIS 2ND TO NONE!
Bill Bruce wrote on January 24, 2005
Anyone want to no Ciara's record label? Surpris surprise it's BMG. Could this be a re-run of the Gareth Gates scandal when A Little Less Conversation was withdrawn? Just a thought.
CEP wrote on January 24, 2005
I have an ex work colleague who is now a producer at the BBC and he told me on Monday night last week that there was just no way that Elvis and AFSAI would be allowed to get to number 1 . We I pressed him further he said that it has been a nightmare for TOTP, record stores have a number one slot with 'record deleted on it' which looks really bad,the kids don't like them every week and are complaining and the industry generally has a bad opinion of EPE. His view was that one release would have been great but that there is quite a lot of antagonism within the industry over this whole campaign. He then added that it would be in the industry's best interests if Elvis does'nt get anymore top tens never mind number 1s for a few months.He also said that record stores were actually being encouraged not to put AFSAI on the shelves if they had any left. Controversial stuff and a huge pr nightmare. Poor old Elvis. I for one will not be buying anymore of the singles even if I can get them,politics are at play here.BBC radio and TV Presenters at the weekend were actually fairly rude about Elvis so it might be better to just take a back seat for a while.
johnlennon wrote on January 24, 2005
#2 is still great, who cares if he didn't get to #1? Is it so terrible? Chart positions dont mean anything to most people these days as peoples tastes in music in general is pathetic, just cos something charts well doesn't mean it's good by any stretch of the imagination. Seeing Elvis in the charts is good, but alas people are getting a little tired of it, in a lot of peoples views (and it's true) it's only going on cos the record company want more and more money out of fans who'll buy the same songs they have on a million CD's or vinyl's already. TOTP is a show now for little 8 year olds, not the entire generation throughout the nation so don't worry about some impersonator being on the program....I don't know a single person who ever watches the show! Who cares if Elvis doesn't even get in the top 100? The music is always for people to marvel over, but I'm not going to take the attitude of some fans by saying "Elvis is the king he SHOULD be #1" because that's very ignorant. Elvis was great, but just because he was great doesn't mean he SHOULD instantly get #1's with every release, especially when it's nothing new, just stuff we've got and heard.
tangerinebull wrote on January 24, 2005
I just dont care anymore,the way bmg have treated the fans is a bloody disgrace.Ive just got home from every record shop in town for now or never and can not get it, what a way to treat people.
data wrote on January 24, 2005
Well mister Lennon if a record sells the most in one week than it should be at number 1. If dj's or TV can not stand it that it is Elvis that's there problem and a verry unfair one. Even if he had the number 1 spot for a whole year. It only means that a lot of today"s music is throw away music. I like to see Elvis make chart history and so do a lot of other fans we enjoy it to see him beat all the competition of today. I still believe a remix is a better option because younger people would be more interested in that but if these singles sell more in one week than the others they should be at number 1. And it is sad to see how unfair Elvis is treated by radio stations or TV. And it has a nasty smell to it to see Elvis not getting a new number 1 because at the last day he is outsold because his record is not to be found.
John4126 wrote on January 24, 2005
The whole thing is becoming an embarrassment: No airplay, no video and no stocks in the shops. It is doing Elvis more harm than good. Records tumbling yes - but in a chart that has had it's day - who cares? Nice to have the record for the lowest selling number one (sic). The cynics will pounce on that!
ttwiise wrote on January 24, 2005
just receeived this response from hmv regarding the extra pressings:- Dear Paul, Thank you for your recent email. Further information regarding the extra pressings of the Elvis single will be released once we have confirmed the amount of stock that will be provided by Sony/BMG. Regards, Michael Curle Customer Service
ranger wrote on January 24, 2005
And there was I thinking that the 'extra pressings' were a part of mythology like the Loch Ness Monster or Big Foot or Preston North End winning the Football League. The ailing record industry stinks, and deserves both itself and the Robbies, Madonnas and Kylies which it has created. Funny thing is that when it was less manipulative, and less impressed with demographics, the calibre of artists were The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Jimi Hendrix and, yes, Elvis Presley. And, ironically enough, these artists sold (and are still selling)far more records!
John4126 wrote on January 24, 2005
For those of you struggling to buy 'It's Now or Never', you may find it on: 30 No1 Hits (and DVD Audio version!), Elvis Gold Records Vol 3, Arist of the Century, Best of Artist of the Century, Elvis is Back, Essential 60's box set, Platinum: A Life in Music, Heart and Soul, Always on My Mind, The Number One Hits, The Top Ten Hits, Essential Collection. There are more but i'm losing the will to live! Get the drift? Forget it - haven't you been ripped off enough?
pacer1965 wrote on January 24, 2005
Has anybody on here manage to get Its Now or Never ? Unfortunately I have not been able to go to any music stores this morning because everyone in my house has not been well.By the looks of it Sony/BMG dont seem to be bothered anymore if Elvis gets any more no 1s because they only wanted Elvis to get the 1000th number one in the uk.So now his done that they dont give a sh** now. Ciara did not sell many did she ? It just shows you how bad the state of todays music is ! Can anyone tell me what happened to the rest of the singles they pressed ? because Elvis only sold 20,002. It reminds me when ALLC was no 1 cause they deleted that and where is Gareth Gates now ?
Jim Semple wrote on January 24, 2005
Of course, its a big stitch up. Record Companies often rotate their acts, to satisfy the market. PS - Ebay has very little to do with the missing sales, yes there are a few on there selling copies in advance, but hey we're not talking thousands oin Ebay. I don't know about anyone else, but Im getting a bit pi$$ed off with the whole thing now. The whole thing is a shambles, and infact there will be a part of me glad when this whole re-release business is finished. I'm sick of travelling miles to find records, its not on the radio, its not on TV. Christ we should be celebrating, but nobody is impressed with this at all. Call me cynical, but when EPE heard about the news last night, I bet there were a few wry smiles.
pacer1965 wrote on January 24, 2005
Thats not the point John if you want to get hold of these singles. They should be easier to get hold of than they are now. I would like to get them because i was not around in the 50s or 60s. But if i cant its just hard luck to me. Knowing BMG they will probably release them all later on anyway so you will able to buy them all at once
John4126 wrote on January 24, 2005
Pacer - I wasn't around in the 50/60's and nor were CD's. Go to any record fair and you can pick up the original 45's for a couple of quid. Spinout - Can't believe you have bought the single to play - put it in the nice black box and gaze lovingly at it and put on the latest FTD release.
Elvis Express wrote on January 24, 2005
This morning I was at the Virgin store in Brighton and what occurred was nothing short of a farce. There was already a queue of around 50 people prior to opening and as soon as the doors opened, it was a mad rush to the singles department, BUT not one Elvis single in sight, no! It was under the counter, all were limited to one copy per person. Some fans were even turned away at the door and told to try HMV as there is not enough copies for the 50 or 60 people still waiting. When I got home I found the the CD was not the usual black on the playing side but was silver.
pacer1965 wrote on January 24, 2005
Do you think they will put a ciara impersonator on totps this week ? lol Thanks for the info John !
John4126 wrote on January 24, 2005
Spinout - Good to hear from you. No - can't say that i'm jealous. Each to their own. You want 'em - you get 'em. It's a relatively free world just as i don't have much of a problem with the e-bayers taking advantage of the situation. Good luck to them.
Son Of Mark 64 wrote on January 24, 2005
I was in woolworths in Ashton (a town near manchester) on saturday and the girl was sorting out the top 20 singles they didnt have AFSAI and I was told they do not stock vinyl. but then they put up this weeks chart with Its Now or Never at no 4 I asked here for a copy she said we have no stock well hows as it got to no 4 on the woolworhs chart before its released any clues
Son Of Mark 64 wrote on January 24, 2005
In answer to john if you buy it play it whats the pont of buying it to put it away. I have the original 16 no 1's and both sets of 17no1's and I am collecting both types of 18 no1's more the merry to make ELVIS NO 1 IN THE CHARTS AGAIN AFTER 28 YEARS GREAT
pacer1965 wrote on January 24, 2005
Spinout you have got me worried now. I have not had much time to play my vinyls yet. I think i better play them and see if there alright. I will try tomorrow to see if i can get Its Now or Never as I am going to Hmv to get It Happened At The Worlds Fair on dvd.Never mind guys at least the king got to number 2 this week. If you told me last year Elvis was going to do this i would have laughed at you
John4126 wrote on January 24, 2005
Elvis in the singles charts? Does it really matter now? EP is above all that - there is nothing to prove. What makes me laugh is that ordinarily we poo -poo the charts -'You used to have to sell 250k before you got in the top 5', 'The charts are for the under 12's' etc. Now the singles chart are everything! Wasn't it fantastic to hear E singing 'young and beautiful' on the On Tour Rehearsals CD?
johnlennon wrote on January 24, 2005
Quote from John4126: "For those of you struggling to buy 'It's Now or Never', you may find it on: 30 No1 Hits (and DVD Audio version!), Elvis Gold Records Vol 3, Arist of the Century, Best of Artist of the Century, Elvis is Back, Essential 60's box set, Platinum: A Life in Music, Heart and Soul, Always on My Mind, The Number One Hits, The Top Ten Hits, Essential Collection. There are more but i'm losing the will to live! Get the drift? Forget it - haven't you been ripped off enough?" Hahaha, is this true? I never knew we could get this song on so many albums. I think I've got it on about two albums, no point in buying the same song over and over I don't think, but oh well.
John4126 wrote on January 24, 2005
JohnLEnnon - Thank goodness - someone with a sense of humour
Jim Semple wrote on January 24, 2005
Changing the subject altogether, its about time Elvis On Tour 2 DVD was released, along with CBS 77 Special, though I won't hold my breath on that one. I was just looking at how many hundreds of LPs and CDs I've got of Elvis, and yet soooooooooo little concert video / DVD footage. Lets push for that ASAP.
data wrote on January 24, 2005
Mister lennon and mister john if you like to fool around then go and do it somewhere else. If you talk that way then why bother to buy FTD CD's you have the track Elvis wanted you to hear. And why should Elvis not be in the charts if he sells the most copy's? A lot of fans feel bad about all this and al you do is putting them down. This is what it is al about and if you do'nt understand the feelings of those fans than at least have some respect for there feelings.
John4126 wrote on January 24, 2005
Data- That's what i like about Elvis fans - so up for a full and frank discussion but only if there is no dissention. Don't think i need to advertise my level of committment to the King, suffice to say EPE and BMG have done and continue to do all right out of me. As usual it appears that there is only one winner from this series of releases. Give you a clue. It's not Elvis and it's not his ever suffering fans.
loftmanuk wrote on January 24, 2005
JOHN4126 and johnlennon know see what youve gone and done, youv'e upset Data. Data they are really not putting anyone down. You've got to admit though what they say makes sense. I've think we have really been taken for a ride on this.
data wrote on January 24, 2005
I would be the first to agree that EPE and BMG have let the fans down. But a record that sells the most copy's must be in the charts even if sales are low. I always was against so many Cd's in one year i love the FTD label for fans but not the output for the non Elvis fan and not the little promotion BMG gives those records they should stick to one or two per year and give those CD's a lot of promotion and choose carefully the material they put on these Cd's.And then promote those records on a regular basis on Tv. I like to see Elvis in the charts and for me they should have done things differend: give me a good remix that has a new sound to it once a year and one good CD and lots of promotion.But they gave us the single box and fans buy it it to see Elvis do well in the charts, so to me at least that is what fans deserve for all the effort they put in. We do'nt get Elvis on TV and we can not get a copy of the single we want. I do'nt like this and so do a loy of other fans. They deserve better.
miked wrote on January 24, 2005
It's all about pride...we as fans want to be proud of ourselves being fans, to promote the King, to see his name in lights. He's up there shining bright already but glows more with each no.1...or even no.2,3 etc. But no.1 instills a greater sense of pride, he's beaten off another would be contender and you've helped along the way. We all want to make todays generation more aware of the way we feel about the King, and for them to be introduced to his music, and despite the undoubted less significance to some of the charts, the younger generation still take note of an artist who's at the top of the 40. BMG and EPE take note....fan power demands, and fan power will ultimately prevail, get the merchandise out there. Let the masses hear. there ends the sermon!
data wrote on January 24, 2005
Thank you Spinout that is what it is al about respect.
RobIreland wrote on January 24, 2005
Data as you know I totaly agree with you, even thought the singles box looks great, its a bit of a luxery item. Whats needed these days is a jolly good remix such as the two before . Data how about a remix of "Clean up your own Backyard " eh? lol, ( kinda private joke)
RobIreland wrote on January 24, 2005
I'v got a vinyl copy of Its Now or Never to swap for vinyl A Fool such as I , if anyones interested?
data wrote on January 24, 2005
Well Rob you know i would love a remix of Clean up or Stranger i think it would do more for Elvis than the singles box but things have to go fair the singles box is in the stores(?) and it sells so if sales are sufficient to be in the charts then so be it. And radio makers and TV stations should respect that. You know the way i think about BMG and EPE on this matter.
RobIreland wrote on January 24, 2005
oh i agree data, its sickening how the chart shows hosts are treating Elvis getting back on top. theyr ignorent , nothing short of it, need educated you see.
Elvis girl wrote on January 24, 2005
I have just got back from my local HMV store, no sign of It's now or never, apparently sold out within minutes again just like last week with Fool such as i, i am so disappointed i feel like giving up as there seems to be no hope of getting these singles. I feel that the only way to get them now is through OEPFC if Todd still has some, i know that this method doesn't ensure that it gets Elvis into the charts but it is so unfair when you trail all the way into town and aren't able to get them.
pacer1965 wrote on January 24, 2005
Yeah i am fed up of the insults as well.They want to grow up some people. Will they be insulting ciara ? No of course not they will probably insult the king for getting to number 2 instead.
RobIreland wrote on January 24, 2005
oh aye, The least number of records ever sold to reach number two !! probably.God Id love to hit them with "Wearing that loved on look" or something.
data wrote on January 24, 2005
Rob you sure know your Elvis classics. Again a great number, and with a lot of hit potential. Needs a little bid up to dating but could again be a great Elvis hit.
John4126 wrote on January 24, 2005
There is real genuine respect for Elvis and his music in the quality music media. However it clearly doesnt help when last year EPE hijacked the birth of Rock n Roll claiming it started with 'That's aright', clearly it didn't. Bill Haley recorded Rock n roll when Elvis was still in 10th grade. This blatant attempt to capatalize on the low single sales of a fading chart to 'rewrite' musical history, when Elvis is already considered to be head and shoulders above the rest. The respect is still there but the serious music press quite rightly question the motives. Personally i would like to see an album of re-mixes a la ALLC and Rubberneckin' with perhaps some duets with those inspired by EP. E.g. Springsteen, Bon Jovi etc. However this the 'don't mess with Elvis' music' brigade would surely demur to.
RobIreland wrote on January 24, 2005
Well data I think we all know the songs they should be using, problem is BMG dont seem to know. The hits are great but sure theyr already hits, make new ones I say !
RobIreland wrote on January 24, 2005
John i see your trying hard to get a bar brawl started here. In relation to Bill Haley you see the thing was he and his band still used big brass and lots of intruments. Elvis Thats Alright was the first four piece rock n roll band . First four or was it three even piece Rand R band John. Litle Richard etc were doing it long before Mr Bill Haley , its just they were black and not acepted at the time, I think Elvis would agree with me there. Elvis didnt start R and R but didnt he do it well !!
data wrote on January 24, 2005
Just went to the TOTP site on internet that Fraser M. thing gave his ... in do'nt know how to call it. This is a real disgrace and an insult to all Elvis fans. Why they have such stupid people write something about a record i do'nt know , the man is full of prejudice. This is one of Elvis biggest records and because of this type of songs in his repertoire he had a lot more people that loved him, it is a demonstration of how divers his talent was. Why ca'nt these people understand that.
ranger wrote on January 24, 2005
I for one have finally come to end of the road on this issue. I no longer care about filling my wretched box. It's definitely caused far more trouble than it's worth for all concerned, and I fear (no, I know) that a whole section of society will never again go near an Elvis record because of it. The people who hate Elvis and the people who love Elvis are surely united in some way on this. If Todd is listening, can he just answer me why, three weeks after the problems were first diagnosed, people still can't get these records? Why on earth weren't ANOTHER 20,000 (& 7,500 vinyl) copies of the singles from 'It's Now Or Never' onwards pressed up three weeks ago and available today in the stores? (No Internet sales, no ebay....ALL available in the stores, up and down the country). That would more than adequately have satisfied demand. I believe that it is in the record industry's interest to put this whole adventure to bed as quietly as possible. Hence Elvis, as a presence on the shopfloor, simply doesn't exist. When my local grocer has a run on sprouts he gets more in. For the first time in a fortnight Elvis has come off my CD player...is anyone from BMG/Sony, HMV etc. going to convince me back into the fold? Now where did I put Captain Beefheart's 1st LP?
circleG wrote on January 24, 2005
well said Ranger. What a missed opportunity for AFSAI. it should have been no.1. i see BMG, EPE in a whole new light now. For the first time they can stuff this idea I'm giving my box with just two cd's to my dog. FTD's are more than enough for me.
RobIreland wrote on January 24, 2005
But really if u think about it. If A Fool Such As I had been released as a lone single in its raw form today do you really think it would have gotten any where ?? I dont ! Its a good song to us but musically its out of date and much too country for the pop market today, so i think we really should celebrate its phenomenol placing at number two,,,, im going to get linched for this arnt i lol.
Raleighroadace wrote on January 24, 2005
Hello everyone. All I want to say is that Elvis making no 2 would normally be a fantastic achievment. However it's very disappointing when we know Elvis would have been no 1 if there had been enough copies of the single in the shops. What a huge opportunity missed. Opportunities like this don't come around very often. Changing the subject,I hope we see an Elvis On Tour special edition.There is so much fantastic music in this film.Elvis and the TCB band are in awesome form.The sound desperately needs to be given the same treatment as ETTWII,and the Lost Performances. I am a drummer myself and Ronnie Tutts drumming in Elvis On Tour is absolutely amazing, but you can't hear it to its full potential. I live in hope. Wouldn't it be fantastic to see Elvis singing Suspicious Minds from Elvis On Tour!
Jim Semple wrote on January 24, 2005
Rob - you are absolutely right, as songs go, AFSAI would not be in my Top 1000 songs, neither would Wooden Heart and Crying In The Chapel, but the point is (where most people have forgotten), where all these kids and anti-Elvis DJs, Radio Stations etc keep moaning that ''Elvis only sold 20,000 copies to get to Number 1'', well what about all these so called big names of today ? For the past 3 weeks, Elvis was outselling them by an absolute mile. What happened to their sales ? What happened to their followers ? The fact is, they couldnt compete with Elvis and never will. That said, lessons to be learnt here, with BMG seemingly guilty of promising falsely of extra copies etc and EPE, well enough said there.
forelvis wrote on January 24, 2005
One readrer from Metro in U.K. write the next lines: Posted by: ken2051 on 08/16/02 at 08:09 AM Why oh why, do we have to have so much publicity over a long dfead drug sodden Yank, who could'nt sing anyway?? Anoth con. by the Record Co. spin doctors. Admitting that we have no British talent, do we need this adoration of a human failure. Rock and Roll was not "invented by him or the Beatles. Both totally ruined the "Pop "scene years ago.
Jim Semple wrote on January 24, 2005
The sad thing is, there are millions of people (mainly Americans)who think that way about Elvis. And it doesnt help matters, when we see impersonators on TOTPs.
forelvis wrote on January 24, 2005
Yes. "The most ambition marketing" as was written in an important diary is death. Now the victims of the Tsunami single will beat up Elvis Presley from the singles. This ambition was for only two weeks. And i have many friends from U.K. and write me that many people in U.K. hated the "bore" Elvis Presley. The lines from a reader in metro that you read under this lines give you a portait that the strategic marketing was a total failure.
Viva wrote on January 24, 2005
Bill Haley was an old fart with the charisma and sexuality of a dog turd. The cultural explosion that was LATER called Rock n Roll was created by Elvis, no one else - not Jerry lee, not Little Richard, not Carl Perkins - ELVIS did it and all these jealous morons who continually bleat about how some bloke in 1843 actually created Rock n Roll by twanging an elastic band between his teeth never fail to piss me off. ELVIS did it - tough shit deal with it. Sorry, had to let that out.
Viva wrote on January 24, 2005
Ref: formyelvis070 Christ, and I thought I was a miserable sod.
data wrote on January 24, 2005
There will always be pro's and contra's. That is nothing new. But you can at least show some respect. And if Elvis has still the amound of fans that can give him a number 1 they should not put them down but start looking at the reason why those fans are so loyal. The man must have had something to keep our intrest in his music afther all these years. And that is not all, why are there still new people intrested in his music?
DDH wrote on January 24, 2005
Just called into our local Woolies store [9-15am] They only got 5 [FIVE] copies of Now or Never in, 3 already sold. They where unable to find covers for the other 2 and i was told they could not therefore supply me. I asked if they find the cover[s] could they keep me one. The answer was NO. No sign of the extra AFSAI copies either. NoN is waiting for me at HMV, but they did not get AFSAI either. So bmg/sony were are the copies we're promised.?
ttwiise wrote on January 25, 2005
my vinyl copy of it`s now or never (yes I have one, no I`m not selling, I queued for this in the cold) is numbered 10229 I thought there was only 7500!!
RobIreland wrote on January 25, 2005
Look Everyone, its simplw, we are the ones that can appreciate the phenemona that is Elvis Presley, we are the lucky ones so just enjoy the unexplainable persona that he's left behind for us, The chosen ones! lol
RobIreland wrote on January 25, 2005
Well I got a copy of Its Now or Never, well swap for A Fool Such As I , both vinyl !
E.J.F... wrote on January 25, 2005
If you want further proof of what today's generation think of Elvis try visiting the Music section of Yahoo.co.uk and look at the Chart Commentary by one James Masterton. He is so happy. Why? Because Elvis did NOT make it to #1 with "AFSAI"!! He even calls our man "a dead cheeseburger addict". No wonder most of the chart toppers today are crap. How can it be otherwise with morons like this. Thank God for Elvis Fans who can show the world what real Pop Music is!
memphis_flash wrote on January 25, 2005
Just looked at HMV online chart, they don't even have an entry for No. 20 - did they conveniently 'forget' to include it? Shows that there is no hope of getting these singles.. And No 1 would have been made if we could get our hands on em
circleG wrote on January 25, 2005
HMV have pulled all refrences and sales of the singles from their site because they cannot supply them. so they don't see any point of having them on their singles chart and i quite frankly agree. come on BMG let's have some more supplies, they don't have to be numbered or have printing mistakes on them. just put 'second printing' on them like they do on books so the first numbered run retains its collectability. see? easy.