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That's The 2 CD Set
It is confirmed that next to the 8CD/2DVD set Sony Legacy will also release a true Legacy version of this album next August.
On this 2-cd Legacy Edition set, the ballads "I've Lost You" & "You Don't Have To Say You Love Me" will be included no less than 4 (four) times each! A bit of overkill for those two songs, I say.
CD 1 (The Original Album and more)
1. I Just Can't Help Believin'
2. Twenty Days And Twenty Nights
3. How The Web Was Woven
4. Patch It Up
5. Mary In The Morning
6. You Don't Have To Say You Love Me
7. You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'
8. I've Lost You
9. Just Pretend
10. Stranger In The Crowd
11. The Next Step Is Love
12. Bridge Over Troubled Water
13. I've Lost You (single version)
14. The Next Step Is Love (single version)
15. You Don't Have To Say You Love Me (single version)
16. Patch It Up (single version)
17. How The Web Was Woven (take 1)
18. I've Lost You (take 1)
19. You Don't Have To Say You Love Me (take 2)
20. Patch It Up (take 1)
21. Bridge Over Troubled Water (take 1)
CD 2 (August 12 - Dinner Show, Unreleased concert)
1. That's All Right
2. I Got A Woman
3. Hound Dog
4. Heartbreak Hotel
5. Love Me Tender
6. I've Lost You
7. I Just Can't Help Believin'
8. Patch It Up
9. Twenty Days And Twenty Nights
10. You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'
11. Polk Salad Annie
13. Blue Suede Shoes
14. You Don't Have To Say You Love Me
15. Bridge Over Troubled Water
16. Suspicious Minds
17. Can't Help Falling In Love
Why was the info on the legacy 2cd release not given at the same time as the overpriced big box?
I will be glad to pick up the 2cd set,and save some shelf space,enough with the oversized releases.
Looks like (according to Elvisworld-Japan) that the legacy release will have disc 1 and disc 5 (CD 5 (August 12 - Dinner Show) (Unreleased concert)) from the 8 disc box. That's a pretty inexpensive way to pick one one of the two unreleased shows and assess sound quality before deciding to pick up the much more expensive box.
In my opinion, this release is not welcome for obviously reasons but it's easy: just skip it... I will buy the box.
Hello, I agree with Steve V that the catalogue has become "A cluttered mess". The advent of the CD brought with it the promise of a compact, focused catalogue. The movie soundtracks were rationalised; there were 'tidying-up' titles, such as "The Lost Album", "Tomorrow Is A Long Time" and the '68 Special boxed-set; and Song/BMG twinned together some of the 1970s albums in the form of lengthy single CD's. But the re-release programme seems to have completely lost its shape. The compilations have become innumerable - if we didn't need the UK collection "Nation's Favourite Elvis Songs" we certainly didn't need the risible "Bossa Nova Baby Party Album". (Incidentally, I have heard the latter - anyone who has seen the eclectic track list won't be surprised to read that the album doesn't hand together at all). The 2 "Aloha" concerts have now been twinned, but they could have done so in 1998 when the remaster of the broadcast was issued. Now one has to buy a version of the broadcast inferior to that 1998 mix to acquire a decent mix of the rehearsal show. The duets collections are ghoulish. "Elvis Is Back!" from 1960 was first released on CD with a sound problem on the opening track, re-released on the 60's box-set in middling quality, re-re-released in better quality and with bonus tracks, re-re-re-released as a double-set on FTD, and then re-re-re-re-released as a Legacy issue coupled with its successor LP from 1961. From the introduction of the CD, the record company(ies) could have used the Legacy model of affordable double sets to create a lean, professionalised catalogue. Instead, Elvis's back catalogue looks increasingly like it needs to go on a diet and spend a lot more time in the gym.
KingKreole is spot on. Great assessment. The bottom line is always the dollar. It will always be that way. The fan is secondary. The label doesnt care how many times stuff has been bought by certain fans. They have a chance to release it again in a bigger ,brighter package, they will do so. They know the die-hards with money will buy it again, and they know they may sell it to a few new fans, make a profit, big or small , and so the game continues. Elvis aint cutting any new music, so it will be that way forever & ever until you can no longer buy it. I also agree withthe oldscudder, This causes the catalog to be a clutterred mess.
I was going to complain about this, much like everyone else, but I realized something quite simple (that I already knew): This release, like most things in life these days, is for people with disposable income. All of us complaining about the price and the fact that it is stuff we mostly already have? No one cares. The world isn't for people worried about prices, it is for people who can just buy whatever they want and not give it a second thought.
There was a time when I had a little bit of money, and I wouldn't think twice about buying damn near anything they slapped Elvis's face on---any CD or book or album cover. And that is who this set is for. Those of us concerned about the price are being left out and left behind. And when all dvds become blurays, we'll be left further behind. And when CDs or albums convert to some newer more expensive format, again, further behind. Fairness is a lie; no one cares if it isn't fair to try to sell people the same stuff they've had for years, with a few new tracks as incentive. It is all about, and ONLY about, money. If this set doesn't sell, well maybe they'll have to rethink things. But overall, this is a game. And nobody really gives a sh1t about "fans" or people who love Elvis and have longer than the execs have been alive. The bottom line is the bottom dollar. And if we can afford to stay up, well screw us--we'll be dead and dying off soon. They're trying to sell to younger, wealthier people who can afford to buy a set like this just to have, not to appreciate the content. Or, they realize Elvis is an addiction for some people and those people will find a way to scrape the money together for ANY Elvis release.
Agree 100% oldscudder. It's a total mess and will only get worse.
It's really mind boggling to see all the Elvis releases out there. He must have at least 100 + greatest hits, best of, essential comps. I have seen big boxes, blue boxes, red, velvet etc. Most artists don't have a fraction of all the rehashes. At this point there is no going back. It's a total mess & will remain so. Being the same songs are released & re released, at least you would think they would put out informative booklets with Unpublished photos but they don't even do that. They go the cheapest route with little to no imagination & it shows.
My guess, and that's all it is, 8-12-70 (MS). If my memory serves, that's the one on the 30th anniversary box.
Back on topic . . . I wonder what disc 2 will consist of on this new 2-cd Legacy Edition set?... Probably a complete show, but the question is -- Which one?
OK... 6 CDs with an 80-page booklet on the FTD label... I personally wouldn't pay more than $100
Of course the cheaper the better. But I'm not that naïve to believe that a 6-CD boxset (probably with a book inside) released by FTD, I repeat "FTD", would cost only 90 bucks. I remember very well how much A Boy From Tupelo cost when it was released. And that one didn't have 6 discs. The same for Fashion For A King and some other boxes. I don't have any of the TTWII live CDs. So, for me it would be more expensive to purchase each one separately as most of you guys did, specially because the box Live In Las Vegas and the TTWII 3cd-set are out of print and extremely expensive in auction sites. As for "downloads", I also have them all. But for me a real collection must be of physical discs.
I own or have heard all of this material already. The two unreleased concerts were available for free, along with the other four, as a download on the internet a few years back. I cannot remember which Elvis website hosted the download, but I got them all in perfect stereo, gapless recordings, including the artwork. I made six professional quality CD's right in my own home, and I still have them. As far as the two unreleased concerts are concerned....Well, they are not significantly different from the other four shows. They are all about the same. In my opinion, the August 11 MS is the best of the best and better than the two unreleased dinner shows. I think the set is cool for someone that does not have this stuff already, but I am not going to buy again the material which I have already purchased. In case you are wondering, I have the original Vinyl LP from 1970, both versions of the movie, the first CD version, the FTD version, FTD One Night in Vegas, BMG Live In Las Vegas box-set, and the BMG 30th Anniv box-set. In addition to spending all that money, I downloaded the freebies from the internet for fun. The word "overkill" comes to mind when looking at this behemoth of an album. I just do not want to forego all that money to buy stuff I already own so I am going to pass.
Now wait,you want someone to give to something that saves lives,rather than buy a over priced set that comes in a crappy cardboard holder,when it could have been a 2 cd set or 2 single releases.
wildfishie, why the heck should a 6-cd box set cost anywhere near $150 ?! If you're trying to GIVE your money away, perhaps St. Jude Children's Research Hospital in Memphis would be a better charity option than Sony!! In reality, a 6-cd box set (with a nice booklet included) should cost no more than $90 (U.S. dollars)
Well said Tony. My opinion is that we shouldn't take the Sony releases too seriously, as we know RCA, BMG and Sony have always made a mess of Elvis' catalogue. But at least they keep releasing things. I much rather see a rerelease of That's The Way It Is like this, than see nothing at all. What we more dedicated fans need to have in mind is that FTD is our main way to collect Elvis. If we have to complain or request things aimed at us, it's FTD whom we should go to.
By the way let me ask you guys one question. What would be better as an FTD release?
1 - Separate releases of the 2 remaining concerts, or 2 - A boxset with all 6 concerts together
I personally don't like option one because, 2 of the That's The Way It Is concerts are now hard to find, as we need to be lucky to find both the Live In Las Vegas boxset and the TTWII 3-cd set. If a 6-cd boxset of these concerts were released for us, say for a price no more than 150 dollars, it'd be, in my opinion, an easier option. I'd like to hear from you all.
I buy lots of CDs that have been dead for longer than Elvis, quite what has being dead got to do the quality of the music? Why question whether young people will buy it? Are they the only people who buy music? As for the crazy comment about Elvis being off the radar since 1977, that must surely be a joke. Elvis is mentioned in the print media, TV or radio every single day, certainly a lot more than The Beatles or Frank Sinatra.
Yep Steve, I think you're absolutely right !!! Always El.
You've got that right, Marty. I think the FTD releases are the ones for die-hard fans to get. But I expect Legacy to eventually use all the FTD masters and the cream of FTD's out-takes. Regarding the 2-CD TTWII release, I hope they put the original LP and some singles on disc 1 and the concert from the 3-CD set on disc 2. The rehearsal material has a terrible sound balance, and the tracklisting I've suggested would make a good pairing. Personally I'd also like to see that glorious refrain of 'You've Got That Lovin' Feelin'' added to the original album, and the dubbed applause from 'Bridge Over Troubled Water' removed. But Sony - and FTD for that matter - seem very anchored to historic authenticity, even keeping the awful canned audience responses on FTD's Moody Blue version of 1974's 'Let Me Be There'.
My guess is that a year or two after FTD will have rereleased all albums in the 2 CD Classic Album series, Sony will have rereleased all allbums in the 2 CD Legacy series.
Its not a bad idea to have his original albums out there. The problemis they should have stayed out there from day 1, like the Beatles or Stones cataloag. The constant repackaging, and releasing is a bit over the top by this point. There are so many variations found on Elvis product, it is confusing for anyone, even collectors. This doesnt have to sell a lot to be profitable. Sony knows that, and they are banking on a certain number of sales. Elvis is not a big seller anymore, despit what you may think. He is more or less a compiler of sales. With so many CDs available, sales on each only have to be minor to compile a lot of sales. Thats what the strategy is, and why he contiunes to show a lot of sales for a years worth of data. Throw a lot of product out there, and sell a few of each. That equals a lot of sales and revenue.
It's funny that many fans in this site seem to think that every release is aimed at them! There are many who like Elvis and his music but do not have any version of 'That's The Way It Is'. This is who the 2cd version is aimed at, not the collector who has the original LP, the first cd version, the expanded 3cd version, the FTD version etc. And there is a big audience out there that might buy. It is going to be successful? I do not know but someone at Sony thinks it can generate some profit. Simple as that!!!
oh how I wish he'd stayed a greasy rocker.
It's nice that this album is available again, a lot of people love the 1970 Elvis, was any performer ever this good. I don't think so. He really took a radical chance, changing his image from the greasy rocker in '68 to the ultimate all round, soulful performer. Few, if any of his Rock 'n' Roll contemporaries had the versatility or sheer talent to pull such a metamorphic shift off. Some sort of transfiguration took place, the teds never forgave him. Will I buy it, probably not, I do love the version I have, especially, 'just can't help believing' and 'Patch it up'.
Thanks Sony for confirming what I thought. Milk him for all he's worth. It's now becoming a joke.
Why do elvis fans have a hard time understanding that not everyone will agree with there views? I know the answer but will let you ponder on it! Its overkill,and to top it off the cds come stored in a cheap cardboard holder,i know just be glad were getting them!
Why are elvis fans so happy to rebuy? Ftd even released 2 of the shows,you dont feel a bit annoyed by that? Why couldnt ftd release those shows and also release a real rehearsal set instead of the pathetic stage rehearsals release? Sony ernst etc know the fans thats for sure!
Jerome's brother, your comment is ridiculous. You apparently have very little, if any, information about Elvis' sales since his death. If you think he's off the radar why are you wasting your time in an Elvis fan page? Do your homework and go research about the Legacy successful strategy before throwing up any garbage.
Really? Who cares. If you're an FTD buyer and obviously an Elvis fanatic, who needs this? Oh yes, the general public? Face it, how many young people out there are going to purchase something from a guy who's been dead and really off the radar since August 1977? Give me a break. Once again, flood the market and hope your offering sticks to the wall; good luck on that.
in the new bossa nova baby album. There is a advertisement for the new Elvis that's the way it is Boxhead coming out in August so it has been confirmed
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