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November Releases FTD
Next to The Something For Everybody Sessions and Elvis In Florida, FTD announced 2 CD releases for November 23. They are both in the classic album series: Flaming Star (the EP of course!) and the original Elvis' Christmas Album.
Since it is now November 11, I'm wondering when we'll get the official details on these releases.
Some of these old Camden records were not that bad. They gave us the chance to hear songs like ``I`ll be there, Let`s be friends, Let`s forget about the stars If I`m a fool (for loving you)`` which were not released in any form. So they did have some unreleased tracks. I do not believe however that they should be released on FTD.
As for Flaming star, I think it will be on 1 CD and will only have the soundtrack outtakes. I am really curious to see what will be on the Christmas album, knowing that there are very few outtakes available. Specially if it`s a 2 CD set! TCB
Good points, Lou A... and well worded.
FTD charges the same for 2 CD sets as for single discs , actually a pretty good bargain for collectors material in great quality. As I mentioned in another post if it's a single disc with all of the Flaming Star movie material that would be great . If it's a 2 disc set and they stick the Flaming Star LP on disc 2 (the tie-in being the song Flaming Star's first appearance on LP on an eponymous album) it wouldn't bother me . I understand that songs like Tiger Man and Too Much Monkey Business have nothing to do at all with the Flaming Star film tracks . But look at the extra tracks on the recent Elvis for Everyone .Many of them don't tie in well with the original album but they're there . Either way , I'll be okay with it .And we should know about Flaming Star and the Christmas album soon.
Jamie wrote (on Oct 26, 2014) -- "The Australian fan club website has an FTD press release confirming each of these releases is a 2 CD set."
Lou A wrote (on Oct 29, 2014) -- "Now one of the Elvis sites is saying the Flaming Star will include the Camden release???"
Jamie, maybe that wasn't an official FTD press release. Perhaps it was an assumption, or a mistake on the part of ElvisAustralia.
If, by any weird/wild/crazy chance, the Flaming Star FTD turns out to be a 2-cd set, my question (along with everyone else) is...
What the heck could possibly be on the second disc?! Hopefully it'll turn out to be a moot issue. It's just too bad that more information hasn't already been released by Ernst Jorgensen to avoid all the confusion by the Elvis websites.
Jamie, your "third" separate point in your earlier post was somewhat critical of the original Camden releases when you wrote - "My memory of them is that they didn't hang together at all, and were pressed on rotten quality discs." Therefore, it seemed to me that you were making light of those that were looking back fondly on those releases. If I'm wrong and if I offended you with my "LOL!", then I do apologize. There was no intent on my part to offend you. Now... please take your own advice and do try to compose yourself. You seem a little angry. If you must be angry at people online, it would be good if you'd do it elsewhere, so that you don't deter ElvisNews members taking the time and trouble to submit inoffensive, objective, and thoughtful comments.
A lot of this IS nostalgia. When Flaming Star, and Let's be Friends were released I wasn't crazy about either. Now I look at each of them with some affection. Getting back to the FTD Flaming Star release ( which I'm looking forward to) if it's a single disc it will be strictly the Flaming Star films masters and outtakes. If it's 2 CDs, who knows what will be on disc 2. I was merely reacting to what was posted on the Worldwide Elvis site which actually listed the Flaming Star LP tracks . It will all be revealed to us soon!
I, myself, can at times become quite sentimental about certain Camden releases. "Elvis Sings Flaming Star" being one of them. But it won't be a part of this "Flaming Star" product. This will be a 1 CD release. Although some sites incorrectly list it as 2 CDs. Looking forward to it. Now that I'm in a sentimental mood I think I'll go give "Almost In Love" a spin. Another of my favorites.
TheMemphisFan. Do try to compose yourself. I made 2 separate points in my earlier message. The first was that the Singer LP has no link to the imminent FTD Flaming Star release. The second concerned the enduring sentimental pull of obsolete budget releases. I didn't write that anyone was hoping the Singer album would be included in FTD's Flaming Star set. As it happens, Lou A did write that adding the Flaming Star LP to the upcoming FTD "wouldn't be bad at all". More to the point, both Lou and EJF expressed affection for the old budget releases. If you must LOL at people online, it would be good if you'd do it elsewhere, so that you don't deter ElvisNews members taking the time and trouble to submit inoffensive and objective comments.
Jamie wrote -- "And now people are getting sentimental about the old budget releases!"
LOL! No where on this topic have I read that anyone is hoping for the '68 or '69 budget release of "Flaming Star" to be included with the new FTD issue. Yes, we drifted off course a little bit, but that was only because another forum has the set listed as a 2-cd set.
Hello. VLD is right - the Singer Company 'Flaming Star' LP is irrelevant to the upcoming FTD release. Interesting to see how deeply nostalgia affects people: the Camden and Pickwick vinyl albums were an incoherent mess. Later, Sony/BMG put considerable resouce into rationalising Elvis's catalogue for the CD age. And now people are getting sentimental about the old budget releases! My memory of them is that they didn't hang together at all, and we're pressed on rotten quality discs.
I think it's worth mentioning here that the 1969 similarly titled budget release has got nothing whatsoever to do with this classic album issue. They share a title that's all. It would be idiotic to include the '69 tracks here - not that I think there's a chance that will happen. All the tracks contained in those budget discs will be issued in time where they belong.
Thanks . I have the 2nd and 3rd versions you list . For some reason I never got the Singer version. I should look around for one of those.
11/1968 Tan colored RCA VICTOR label on vinyl - "Singer presents Elvis singing Flaming Star and Others" (PRS-279) U.S.A.
04/1969 Blue colored RCA CAMDEN label on vinyl - "Elvis sings Flaming Star" (CAS-2304) U.S.A.
12/1975 Dark gray/black colored PICKWICK label on vinyl - "Elvis sings Flaming Star" (CAS-2304) U.S.A.
MEMPHISFAN :Thanks for reminding me that Flaming Star was an RCA release, but wasn't it also a Camden release before it went to Pickwick?
EJF : I have the "budget" releases you mention and I really like them. I only wish they would have released C'mon Everybody to finish the series. But it wouldn't be a bad thing to have the Flaming Star LP on disc 2 of the new FTD release especially if they can add some outtakes of some of the other songs . Otherwise , I'm not sure how the can fill out 2 CD's .
You know , thinking about it , adding the Flaming Star LP plus outtakes to the second disc wouldn't be bad at all. That is, if they can fit all of the Flaming Star Movie tracks and outtakes onto disc one.
"Elvis sing Flaming Star and others" was released by RCA in 2006, as were "Let's Be Friends," "Almost In Love," and "I Got Lucky," (2008) all at an affordable cheap price (at the time). I have them all and they only cost me approximately between €6 and €7.50 each.
TheMemphisFan – My mistake; I forgot that the other songs where already covered on the other FTDs you mention. There are so many of them that I forget which songs were added as bonus songs! So forget that idea.
As for the 1968 LP ‘Elvis sings Flaming star and others’, the first release was by RCA as a special product sold at Singer stores. The re-issues were on the Pickwick label.
I wonder if FTD will release that one as a ‘Classic album’ by itself. TCB
Well, they are wrong!. It will NOT be the budget release that coincided with the '68 Elvis-TV Special. It will be as you see near the top of this page.
Lou A wrote - " Now one of the Elvis sites is saying the Flaming Star will include the Camden release??? "
That'll be okay, Lou A, if it's Disc 2, with Disc 1 being the soundtrack of the movie "Flaming Star".
By-the-way, just so you'll know - The 1968 release of the (Singer) "Flaming Star" album was an RCA Victor issue... not Camden.
Now one of the Elvis sites is saying the Flaming Star will include the Camden release???
Troubleman, maybe your reasoning of "Treat Me Nice" having already been covered on the "Jailhouse Rock" CDs, is because it was a soundtrack recording... because we can also say "My Wish Came True" and "Don't" were already covered on the "50,000,000 Elvis Fans Can't Be Wrong" FTD release...
and "Playing For Keeps" & "Too Much" were already covered on the ELVIS (1956 album) FTD release.
TheMemphisFan - The song 'Treat me nice' was already covered on the 'Jailhouse rock' CDs, but it would make sense to add "My Wish Came True", and "Don't" as bonus tracks. They could even add four more songs released as singles in 1957: "Playing For Keeps", "Too Much", " All Shook Up" and "That's When Your Heartaches Begin" .
That could make a total of 18 songs on CD 1, and CD 2 would have all the outtakes available. They may also add interviews that Elvis gave in 1957. I am looking forward to this release. TCB
Thanks Benny! I always appreciate your comments and explanations!
Hello. The Australian fan club website has an FTD press release confirming each of these releases is a 2 CD set.
What makes People think the xmas album will be 2 cd's it said 2 cd's were announced not that they are both containing 2 cd's
having the Christmas Special on CD would be a nice extra.
Hi Lefty, I think it's because the last FTD releases for 2014 ( a total of 4) were announced two by two, as follows : releases in october : the vinyl 'Something For Everybody'-sessions and CD 'Elvis in Florida'.
November releases : the X-Mas album and the 'Flaming Star' release. I could be wrong though ! Always El.
My Guess is that the christmas album contains the christmas special from 1967
I wonder why there is no mention of the April 1975 soundboard?
"Treat Me Nice", "My Wish Came True", and "Don't " were also recorded at the Christmas sessions in September 1957.
Looking forward to these releases. Since the 'Christmas' album will be 2cd's and knowing that the session tapes have been lost, I expect all the surviving binaural takes from the gospel songs will be included. Probably the same takes will also be included in their Mono version as well, otherwise I cannot see how they can fill 2 cd's! We'll wait and see...
Hopefully soon we will get the binaural takes from the secular songs of that period. I've been waiting for such a release for a long time now as I really enjoyed 'Stereo '57' when it was released.
Elvis' Christmas Album is welcome! I've been hoping for this one for as long as the rest of you out there. Hoping for surprises I guess maybe that the release will also contain recordings from the same sessions, with outtakes, that prodused both the christmas album and the gospel EP at the time. We have these alternates already released from the EP tracks. BIN are the binaural recordings:
1. Peace In The Valley 3:29 M.9 BIN CU
2. It Is No Secret 3:56 M.13 BIN CU
3. Peace In The Valley 3:22 T.1 TTF
4. Peace In The Valley 3:57 T.2,3 BIN ESS2
5. Peace In The Valley 3:22 T.4 PLAT
6. Peace In The Valley 3:40 T.7 BIN ESS2
7. It Is No Secret 6:00 T.1,2,3 BIN ESS2
8. It Is No Secret 4:07 T.5 BIN FB
Troubleman, from what I read on another site, Elvis' Christmas Album FTD is going to be a 2-disc set...
therefore, there might be a surprise or two on there. Let's hope so!
TheMemphisFan - I agree with you that they will probably only have the soundtrack songs on this release since there is enough outtakes, movie versions and master version to go on 1 CD. I was hoping they would release the 1st Christmas album with whatever outtakes they may have. These will fit in very well in my FTD classic albums collection. If they could somehow reproduce the photo album like the original that would be cool too! TCB
VivaLasDavies, since FTD has dropped "By Request" from the front cover, they might have also dropped the songs AYLT & INON and focused solely on the FLAMING STAR soundtrack recordings.
Smile:-), they probably will put all masters first before any outtakes. All the possible outtakes that I posted below aren't supposed to be in any specific order.
Two VERY welcome releases, I love the re-vamped Flaming Star cover. However, regardless of the track listing for the original U.S. EP, I hope AYLT and INON are excluded as the don't really belong here.
For listening pleasure I certainly hope that they put the masters of Black Star, A Cane And A High Starched Collar and Britches right after the original EP tracks. Anyway, I will buy this one for sure:-)
Strange that FTD is leaving off the "By Request" on the front cover of their re-issue of the 1961 Flaming Star EP.
The contents of the set might look something like the following...
~ ORIGINAL EP ~
1. Flaming Star
2. Summer Kisses, Winter Tears
1. Are You Lonesome Tonight?
2. It's Now Or Never
- BONUS MASTERS And OUTTAKES -
Black Star (master)
Black Star (take 6, end title)
Black Star (acetate)
Summer Kisses, Winter Tears (takes 1 - 14)
Summer Kisses, Winter Tears (take 20)
Summer Kisses, Winter Tears (take 21 - 23)
Summer Kisses, Winter Tears (take 24)
Summer Kisses, Winter Tears (take 25)
Summer Kisses, Winter Tears (take 26)
Summer Kisses, Winter Tears (film version)
Summer Kisses, Winter Tears (Master)
Britches (instr take 1)
Britches (vocal overdub, takes 1 - 7)
Britches (insert take 1)
A Cane And A High Starched Collar (takes 2, 3)
A Cane And A High Starched Collar (master)
Flaming Star (vocal overdub)
Flaming Star (stereo)
Flaming Star (master)
Flaming Star (instr take 1)
Flaming Star (end title version)
Flaming Star (film version)
A Cane And A High Starched Collar (film version)
Original Movie Theatre Trailer
Really looking forward to Elvis' Christmas Album. Not expecting any surprises. But will enjoy having the album in great sound and packaging. As for Flaming Star, been waiting for this a long time, I enjoy the tunes. Bottom of the barrel? That's a matter of personal opinion/taste.
Hello. The Christmas LP may include binaural outtakes of some of the PITV EP songs. I don't think there are any alternate takes of the seasonal songs. There's quite a stack of Flaming Star material - it's not Elvis's best work, but there are plenty of interesting little curios in there.
Elvis Christmas album will for sure include the already released outtakes of Peace in the valley and It is no secret. I´m looking forward for this release. Also, here´s hoping for He touched me on vinyl.
It'll be interesting to see what, if any outtakes, are included on "Elvis' Christmas Album" other than the count-in to White Christmas. As to "Flaming Star"…. another sign of we're getting down to the bottom of the barrel folks…. again… So what additional songs will be included with each of these? Waiting with baited breath as they say.
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