A Third #1? Or Not?

The CD:UK chart has just been shown on ITV1 in the United Kingdom and they had Elvis' "A Fool Such As I" at #1. Usually a good indication for the official chart which is broadcasted on Sunday on the BBC, but consider it nothing more than an indication. The Top 3: 1. Elvis presley - A Fool Such As I 2. Chemical Brothers - Galvanizi 3. Ciara - Goodies In the Virgin chart however, Ciara is #1 and Elvis "only" second. We'll have to wait until tonight for what the official chart will bring us.
Source: Various / Updated: Jan 23, 2005 
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DDH (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 24, 2005report abuse
Just called into our local Woolies store [9-15am] They only got 5 [FIVE] copies of Now or Never in, 3 already sold. They where unable to find covers for the other 2 and i was told they could not therefore supply me. I asked if they find the cover[s] could they keep me one. The answer was NO. No sign of the extra AFSAI copies either. NoN is waiting for me at HMV, but they did not get AFSAI either. So bmg/sony were are the copies we're promised.?
Pelvisman (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 24, 2005report abuse
I also tried to get It's Now Or Never today Monday the 24th Jan. but Woolworths only had two copies sent in and they are not sure if they are going to get any more copies in which is such a disgrace as I have been collecting the box set from day one. If I cannot get any more, I just as well chuck the one's that I have collected into the bin,because it is no good having a incompleate set. I shall be writting a nasty E-Mail to BMG and the people concerned over this matter. A disgusted Elvis Fan.
ranger (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 24, 2005report abuse
Well done viva, I agree with everything you say. I feel that I might repeat some of the things which I said exactly two weeks ago about the unavailability of the 'One Night' single, but here goes...
Local HMV had no copies of 'It's Now Or Never'.
Local Woolies had one copy of INON which went to a member of staff before 9.00am (not much good to a member of the public). Other Woolies had sold out of their two copies as at 9.25am (did they also go to members of staff?).
This situation was disgraceful two weeks ago, but at that time the demand for the product was a surprise/novelty.
Now it is not, and there is NO reason why 20,000 additional copies (the 20,000 copies which should have been there in the first place) of this particular single were not on record racks up and down the country at 9.00am this morning. NO REASON AT ALL. The problem was highlighted two weeks ago.
In the 60s (oh to be there now) if a Beatles' single had sold out, the various strands of the music industry (albeit in a peculiarly English way) would contrive to meet the demands of record buyers and retailers alike. No one who wanted a copy of 'Can't Buy Me Love' (TWO MILLION advance orders) was left disappointed. Since then, time has progressed but there has been no 'progress'. The record industry has certainly 'regressed'. Sony/BMG are dealing with a fraction of the sales figures of the 60s and, of course, these current Elvis singles aren't even worldwide releases! Have they satisfied demand? No. If not, why not?
I live near Walthamstow market. If the guys there have a run on oranges do you know what they do, Sony/BMG?
They get more in. No kidding. What don't you understand about that concept?
malc&dawn (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 24, 2005report abuse
well i think its disgusting,no fans can get a copy because they never made enough,sounds to me like theres a big con going on somewhere.if more copies were produced the king would be sitting at the top of the charts right now.i went into mvc on mon morn at 9 15 and they told me they were only allocated 4 copies,and they were reserved,asked if i can reserve future singles , was told no.i just dont get it. Dont worry elvis we the true fans will always be behind you.remember the sun never sets on a legend!
Spinout (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
Charlie Elvis made number two ! thats to celebrate isnt it ?? i think so , and hey when is ROUSTABOUT going to be released on FTD? lol
Charlie rodgers (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
Elvis made #2 tonight what the hell happened there!
emjel (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
Yep, big dissapointment, and I too wonder if there's been some number tampering. We''ll know a little more when we see the numbers sold. I think we'll see the next few singles hit the top 5, but definietly no more number ones while the 2 disaster singles battle it out. We might get lucky again for Return to Sender. The campaign has obviously got Elvis back in the public eye, but I'm not too sure if any real benefit will come out of it re new fans etc. It'll stick in the history books of course, but as has already been mentioned, once the "download" charts are merged with the normal charts, Elvis won't get a look in, which is a pity with the 50th anniversary of Heartbreak Hotel next year.
Mal (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
I think some shops might of been holding some copies back. Went on my usual hunt the cd looked in all shops they all had none, ask in all but told all soldout monday! went in again yesterday still none asked in virgin if they would be getting anymore answer no! went in today to virgin what did I see but shelf with at least 30 copies of afsai all numbered, so got my copy, when asked if they had a delivery I got told they had them all week.
data (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
If even fans can not get a copy of it and radio stations do'nt play it than this is still great. Limited is limited but when you get a clear vieuw on sales you should adjust and bring more singles in stores. Even if a non Elvis fan would like to buy it they never have a chance because it is nowhere to find. TOTP and his impersonator dit Elvis no good and we can only hope we get the real thing we still have 15 singles to go. So EPE and BMG get your act together and do something for all Elvis fans, get him on Tv and bring those singles to stores so we get a new number 1.
Viva (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
Well number 2 is still a great achievement, but it still leaves a bitter taste in the mouth when you consider that number one was easily attainable, and there is NO REASON for this single not to do the business, except for the abominal conduct and lack of vision from EPE (the whole video thing), TOTP (for the insult that was Fridays show and subsequent relegation of Elvis to a joke) and the complete shambles of the BMG release policy. I've always felt that the greatest tragedy of Elvis' career was that we only ever saw half of what he was capable of - as a result of awful management and an even poorer understanding of his talent by RCA. When he was alive, Elvis' artistic abilities were stifled and restricted. Now it seems, once again, we can only talk about the POTENTIAL success of these releases, the reality of which will be less than it should have been. But why complain? 2 No1's and 1 No2, in three weeks? what's wrong with you viva you miserable sod? I'll tell you what's wrong: Once again we have been sold short and let down by people who publicly claim to care for the continuation of Elvis' legacy and long for a greater public understanding of his talent, when in reality they consistantly fall short in a number of areas and do little to promote the very person they claim to care so much about. Just to clarify: Yes, what a great achievement, absolutely fantastic. No one else could have done it. But to repeat the old adage: These are a success IN SPITE of epe & (partly) bmg - not because of them. The success of this whole release package could have been SO much better. Long Live The King.
ranger (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
Does anyone know the new positions of the other singles, including 'That's All Right'? This whole thing sounds like a stitch up to me; it was far too much effort for all involved to satisfy the demand on the shopfloor and, when enough people had bought records to make Elvis No.1, it was too much effort to put him on screen. There are, however, two major consolations...
1. TOTP hasn't been worth being on since 1969, and
2. Elvis has a new single out tomorrow.
Spinout (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
Elvis at number two in 2005, yes that will do nicely sir !
Jim Semple (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
Yeh good point, I forgot about that ! Lessons to be learnt then. PS - Of course its a massive achievement and lets enjoy this success while it lasts, as it wont happen again, when the charts merge with the downloads. I don't think we will get The King in the Top 40 then, so lets push hard for the remaining re-releases. As Rob says ''only if you can get to buy the singles !''
RobIreland (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
Well Jim no one can find the singles to buy, dya think that might have something to do with it ?
Raleighroadace (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
Elvis didn't make no 1 this week because there weren't enough singles made. 20,000 copies was not enough this week. Hopefully more singles of the future releases will be made.
RobIreland (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
Did you ever think youd be saying Elvis is only number 2 in 2005, lol, Hes number two, what an achievment !
Jim Semple (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
Not sour grapes, but this smacks badly of the music industry preventing Elvis from being Number 1 for the 3rd time. Every tabloid, every search engine, every bookie had him as the Number 1 and I can only think the powers of be, at the death, have listened to all the silly kids who have complained about Elvis ruining the charts. Perhaps Im wrong, perhaps it was the disgraceful TOTPs that done the damage.
cockney_bill (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
Come on - It hardly 'sucks'. We've been spoilt with 2 No 1's, but there was no way we were gonna get 18 once the big hitters came in. I think we are on for 18 Top 10's, and possibly 18 Top 5's but the one thing this campaign hasn't done is bring in 'NEW fans - so we are not going to improve on the weekly sales tally.
Potential 'new' fans are not going to see Elvis CD's in the racks in the shops, and they are not going to see Elvis on the TV unless some news channel is prepared to pay$10,000 for a whole minutes footage!
We had the chance to really build the momentum after 'Jailhouse Rock' If this had been shown on TOTP in either film or '68 version and then there had been copies freely available on the Saturday for Joe Public to pick up we could have gone places.
Then there was the whole 1,000th Number One we could have built on. But again - no copies in shops and no footage on TOTP, CDUK or anywhere. In my opinion blame the greedy ebayers for taking away peoples opportunity to buy in shops, and blame EPE for their greed.
The whole 'breaking a contract' was probably quite convenient for BBC anyway. Would they really have forked out $30,000 anyway for 3 minutes footage of someone who has been dead for 27 years when they can show some pictures for nothing?
get real (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
id like to see the sales. see how far we missed it by im sure we will know by monday
Brando (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
So, who we Elvis fans plame that he did´t get his 3rd no1
ElvisFanatic316 (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
Oh man that was a bit of a bummer hearing Elvis had only got a No.2 single this week.I am just hoping though that It's Now or Never at least gets into the top 3 next week but would definitely prefer another No.1
Well at least he is still getting into the charts so i am happy about that.Just hope they don't have that Jackass on TOTP ruining anymore Elvis songs. Lets all buy It's Now or Never tomorrow if we can find it of course.
RobIreland (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
At least no rediculous impersonator to cringe at this week
get real (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
yup sucks
scarlet o hara (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
Well there you go Elvis is not number one. Everyone concerned, BMG, The BBC and EPE have let Elvis Presley down. If they had made enough copies then the fans would have made sure that he would have got to number one. They have failed the fans and failed Elvis. Shame on them all. This could have been the most important time in Elvis Presley's career but as in the past, even when he was alive they have got it completely wrong. I am thoroughly disgusted. I will not be buying another Elvis product. It's not that I don't love him, but I am just so fed up with lining someones pockets and it's not helping Elvis out one little bit. I am absolutely furious.
RobIreland (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
Shit number two, ah well!!
RobIreland (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
Cockney bill please just be wrong. I reaaly wanted El2 to get the only hat trick ever.
cockney_bill (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
Its true I'm afraid. Its look like Elvis 'only' has a number 2 this week. Just checked the chart rundown, and EVERY single position corresponds to the Virgin chart previously published on the net.
I'm sure we could have had the number One if more of us had seen the singles in the shop...but hey, it's another top 5 and a number 2 against an artiste with a completely new song out that they are able to advertise on TV is hardly a bad thing. Its not as if people would have been rushing out to buy Elvis after Fridays TOTP is it!
Lets not give up now...Lets make sure all these singles get as high as we possibly can make them. 18 Top 10's with a smattering of Number One's is still going to be one hell of an achievement
Jim Semple (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
In Sundays The People newspaper, Elvis is Number One, and they have never got a prediction wrong ever since I bought the paper, over 20years, so I think its in the bag ! Its a shame that next week will be a big struggle, up against a charity song. Of all the first 3 number ones we've had, although great songs, ''Its Now or Never'' is in a class of its own. Come on, pull together. Mind you, they need to be releasing at least 50,000 copies tho.
hot dog (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
I rang HMV in Preston Lancashire last monday morning. I asked them if I could reserve a copy of Its now or never for the following monday. I was told that I couldnt reserve a copy untill the day before the release. ie Sunday. So I rang them first thing Sunday and guess what?
"Sorry, we havent got any as they have all been reserved". And to make matters worse he told me that every other single release has been reserved right to the end of the collection. Thanks HMV or Ebay or what ever you really are.
stu (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
The marketing has not been good. There must be a lot of people inc none fans looking for the singles and what a great opportunity it is for BMG to provide in-store displays with Elvis' first three albums plus E1, E2,the Love collection and the DVDs on view for all to see. Instead, we have to trail all over the store trying to find the Elvis releases. It really is not good marketing. Thousands and thousands of sales will be getting missed.
Its even more regretable when you consider what a great opportunity this is for Elvis to be considered more an Album artist too! COME ON BMG LETS HAMMER THE PROMO!!
ranger (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
Well said Rev! I've visited my local HMV at regular intervals this week, and have yet to see any sign of the 'Elvis Presley', 'Elvis' or 'Loving You' CDs which were officially re-released last Monday. As with many stores, HMV have tended to put one of the compilation albums in the No.1 rack, but wouldn't it be better to have put one of these CDs in a prominent position in the shop (the No.1 single position), as they're cheaper (£7.99) and, like the unavailable singles, have wonderfully vivid pictures of Elvis. The marketing in all of this, from all sides, has been appalling. In my experience, the only industry that treats their customers with a greater contempt is the football industry.
Rev. Gerhard (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
You know, my sweet grandson, there are without doubt miracles in this world. So there had been a wonderful little singer who always had a strange and bad management and not a serious record company. But people heard his voice and recognized his soul and they'd put him onto a King's throne. This King was thankful and worked more than he could bear to give back all the love he'd got. And then he died a few hours before he would have been on stage again. So now this kingdom could have been finished. And there had been lots of people and a big part of the media who worked for finishing. But his kingdom survived in a shining light. He sold Billions of records, and in spite of the fact that his management and his record company are pretty ridiculous, he had one number one hit after another nearly 28 years after his death. So what could we learn from this, grandson? The most shining miracle will always be made by the strength of love.
doctor (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
To all the fans in the U.K. from a fan in Canada: You absolutely rock! You have been and always will be Elvis' best fans. Thanks for putting him at the top of the charts again. What an amazing thing! Lots has been said back and forth on this message board, but at the end of the day it's down to the music. Elvis made the best ever and his will always be around. I would love to see ALL 18 go to number one again!
Viva (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
Well, three different number 1's in three weeks by the same artist is truly a feat fit for the king. The reason they're getting to No1 is simple: The singles are selling, whether they are being bought by the public or by people who have access before they get on the shelves, they're still buying 'em.
Stevekp- that's a real point isn't it? I've wondered where BMG stand on all this, they seem to be very quiet about it. A lot like EPE.
Mofoca22- Glad to hear you guys on that side of the pond are aware of this shambles. Tell your friends and let's make some noise for the execs at EPE, if they stop counting their money for long enough they might actually take some notice of the natives 'cause they couldn't care less about us limeys.
stevekp (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
How is Elvis getting to No 1? You cannot buy the CDs in the shops! I have tried in both Stockport & Ashton (both large areas of Manchester), so who is buying these and where? I also am apalled at EPE - surely BMG should have agreed a video source since their aim was to get Elvis into the charts again.
roytcbintheuk (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 23, 2005report abuse
I think we need a little less conversation and little more action. like todd said the bbc do not need epe,epe need the bbc
Justtcb (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 22, 2005report abuse
In all fairness to epe I emailed them and got a very quick response saying that they understood our frustrations but the bbc had broke a contract and until the bbc sort their act out then there was nothing that they could do. As soon as they do then things would get rolling, well that was the jist of it anyway. the bbc are the real culprits in this, and it's not like they haven't got the money after all the license fees they get out of everyone. If you give them an inch they will take a mile. Maybe BMG could mediate between them?
roytcbintheuk (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 22, 2005report abuse
well at the end of the day elvis doesnt have to prove anything not to me anyway so i dont really care if he gets to #1 or not the poor man is not here for the glory and no one by his fans give a toss anyway certainly not the organisation who is their to protect his legacy.
P.S to this mario guy or any other impersonator i would refuse to do any more totps because you are just adding fuel to the fire he probably does not even know about this site anyway.
gareth (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 22, 2005report abuse
I have to say i can see where EPE are coming from with this.If they let it go once everybody else is going to jump on the band wagon.But at the end of the day it's Elvis and his fans who suffer.
Mofoca22 (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 22, 2005report abuse
dont worry guys us american elvis fans are fighting for u all. we will break epe down and u will see elvis on bbc come -ell or highwater. there doing elvis in justice and elvis wanted to perform in europe and got screwed out of it but he wont be this time. keep up the great work over there and keep elvis at number 1. u guys are the best fans there are
data (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 22, 2005report abuse
It is so great to see him at the number1 position. So sad EPE has no feeling for good marketing. But then again great to see all the critics that write bad about Elvis being put right because no matter what they say about the singles he is number 1.And this is a little bid af a consolation i hope for fans. At least they can not take that away.
foxmulder (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 22, 2005report abuse
I just don't care anymore. EPE is being "insane in the membrane", we're all paying tons of money to get Elvis in the charts and then we get to see a freakin' nobody on Top of the Pops. It all just doesn't make sense, EPE is getting rich and I'm getting frustrated. I can hear Elvis singing in a sad tone: "EPE's so square, I don't care (anymore)
circleG (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 22, 2005report abuse
not because of me. i never got my cd. probably being sold on ebay. what an awful time to be an Elvis fan. I'm going back to listening to Elvis on my own like i did in '87 when i got into his music. where did i put those Queen cd's......
Sean Ryan (profilecontact) wrote on Jan 22, 2005report abuse
3 in a row.That is fantastic.Of course the downside to that is Mario is gonna murder another Elvis classic on Top Of The Pops.

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