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18 UK # 1s In Holland

December 07, 2004 | Music
It is definitive that BMG Nederland will release the box with 18 singles in The Netherlands too. Here is the special flyer.
Source:BMG NL
data wrote on December 07, 2004
4 Cd's 2 DVD's and a single box and yes "Christmas peace". For the Elvis fan we have had a lot of TTD releases. Now how come we do'nt see a Cd from Elvis long in a chart, i wonder. Marc Hendrickx from Belgium wrote a book and i quote him "the year 1970 is typical for RCA's"take the money and run" policy.This year(1970)we had 2new LP's one box set and 3 budget LP's. Also 5 new singles. If we place this in a time where most superstars bring out 1LP every 2 or 3 years. An evolution that is dramatic for a new single or a new LP. Sales are scattered between a lot of differend records, and what is even worse the coherence is often untidy. This all together makes that slowly a part of the music magazines does not take Elvis au serieux, and that is the biggest injustice. No other artist can survive this, only Elvis but his new singles and LP's get severe blow's." We are now 2004 and BMG is flooding the market, nothing has changed they take the money and run. It was not good marketing then and it is not good marketing now.
JeroenNL wrote on December 07, 2004
again some fan who doesn't understand the FACT that there is also a broader audience for Elvis products. This is for the large public (the 4 cd's plus dvd's) but the box is something very special. If you don't like it, don't buy it. But when you look at it is obvious that they worked hard on the vinyl / cd boxset. Sad to see this reaction. Also he doesn't seem to realize that Elvis died in 1977 so there will be no more new material...
Carl wrote on December 07, 2004
I agree with the comments made by data. RCA and now BMG (and Sony-BMG too?) always believed in oversaturation and flooding the market. At some point, this is justified, as in 1956-1957, but at no other time. RCA never really had a clue about Elvis. Just listen to the first Elvis album. Elvis had some great performances but RCA diluted them and just randomly threw together the cuts as if they were slop. This continues with Elvis. BMG doesn't have a clue either. BMG FINALLY had a winner with Elvis 30 no. 1 Hits and what does BMG do....they flood the market again with a totally unnecessary record called 2nd TO NONE! Why release a follow-up? I don't get that at all. Also, BMG screwed up the 30 No. 1 Hits to begin with. HOUND DOG has a glitch in it. The engineers screwed up. Alos, they put several LATERNATE takes on there which kills stone dead the original idea for the album: To tell new fans what all the fuss was about, to show them how great Elvis was. But then BMG release recordings that were never released before?! It is totally brain dead. Also, BMG should put the original 45 sleeve covers on the album. In other words, BMG needed to PERFECT the 30 no.1s album, to make it a classic and to make it a better record. Instead, BMG just released another album?! It is mindless! I never liked the whole saturation crap. It was as data says merely a way to rip off fans. I like this release however as long as the original sleeves and original 45s are released. Otherwise, what is the point, duh! I never could figure out the BMG policy on Elvis 30 no.1s. It was obviously based on the Beatles 1 concept. But BMG screwed it up in that they put alternate takes on there, screwed up HOUND DOG, and cherry picked the charts. It is not a CLASSIC album because BMG screwed the concept up. Nevertheless, it is still one of the best Elvis greatest hits packages ever released. The problem with Elvis was that RCA never released one good album (with the rare exception of BLUE HAWAII, which was no. 1 for 20 weeks). BLUE HAWAII showed us what would happen when RCA releaed a good album for ELvis: All hell would break loose. BLUE HAWAII was the 2nd biggest album of the 1960s (only West Side Story beat it). People forget that now but ELvis had the 2nd biggest album of the 1960s, not the STones, not the Beatles, etc. What does BMG do? They treat BLUE HAWAII like crap! According to BMG and the experts, it is pure crap! Instead, we get they phony really crappy compilations. Elvis doing Neil Diamond and Simon and Garfunkle. Elvis doing Glenn Campbel! What idiots they are at RCA and BMG. Elvis deserved much much better. But they don't have a clue....still! They don't know why Elvis is great. But the fact remains that RCA/BMG never released one friggin good album for Elvis (except BLUE HAWAII). ANd that was almost by accident. BMG couldn't butcher the album because they didn't have a clue as to what it was all about. So by luck we got an EP monster classic. But it was by luck because RCA didn't know crap about the music on it. So, as an Elvis fan, I am still very very pissed off at RCA/BMG/Sony-BMG for never ever releasing a good album for ELvis. I think a lot of it was about greed and hucksterism. They got a kick from selling the same songs over and over and over again.. Even the Sun Sessions album which came out in 1976 (yes, 1976) had this crappy cover and was released by RCA a year before Elvis died. Thanks, RCA, thanks a friggin lot! Somebody should have been shot for this. But RCA never had a clue. I am still waiting for a good Elvis album.
data wrote on December 07, 2004
JeroenNL i am sorry but you just do'nt understand what i want to say, once again it is not a good policy to flood the market. This has nothing to do with the box set because it are surely only fans that buy it and even for fans the flood is to big. And Carl you have a point, i do'nt agree totally but it is a fact that Elvis albums are no classics and RCA BMG is to blame for it. They always flooded the market, Elvis had a recording session and whoops a new LP, they never took the time to put togheter a great album. Even the choice of singles was bad sometimes, they never held anything in reserve. Elvis could have been and stil can be much bigger in the charts, and treated the right way a lot more number 1. And that is where he should be.
Jim Semple wrote on December 07, 2004
Why do people say 'if you don't like it, don't buy it'? Only about 1% of Elvis fans across the world actually buy everything that is released. Even EPE admitted when they were doing market research that only 1 person in 10 had ever bought an Elvis record and a lot of that was down to over familarity of his hit records. In addition to this, a lot of this is also down to the sheer volume of Elvis stuff that gets released and that the vast majority of it, is essentially the same collection of songs packaged differently.People get frustrated by it and dont buy. If these releases were phased out more, there would be far better record sales overall across the globe. Could somebody please explain to me how the worlds greatest ever entertainer could only manage 10 million sales of Elvis 30 No1s in a world population of nearly 6 billion ? I appreciate that record sales are not like they used to be, but even still thats a poor worldwide figure. We have had ''Elvis 30 No1s and several versions of that'', ''Elvis 2nd To None'', ''Elvis Ultimate Gospel'' ''Elvis Christmas Peace x 2'', ''Today Tomorrow & Forever'', ''Close Up'', ''Live In Las Vegas'', ''Elvis at Sun'', ''ALLC single'', ''Rubberneckin single'', ''Thats All Right single'' and then all the FTD releases (admittedly only for hardcore fans) and then DVDs such as Aloha and 68 Comeback Special and all this within what, a maximum 2 year period perhaps. Now look at the bigger picture and not the hardcore fans point of view. This clearly floods the market with Elvis stuff and a lot of it isnt really necessary. Yes, DVDs Aloha and 68 Special were outstanding and well worth it (even though the promotion campaign outside of the USA was largely abysmal), yes Elvis 30 No1s was another worthy release but did we really need both ''Close Up'' and '' Today Tomorrow & Forever'' (not all that long after A Life In Platinum + The 50s,60s &70s Essential Collection) and Elvis at Sun (which was a money milking machine to mark the 50th Anniversary) especially after we have had Sunrise, The Sun Sessions, 50s Complete Masters etc !. If you think its just me saying this, read all all the reviews on the internet and you will hear the same arguement. The bottom line is, the vast majority of the public dont buy this stuff because they know they have heard it all a million times before over the years and yes whilst there are some new unreleased versions or hidden gems like Roustabout (which I thought was awful), it is largely very similar combinations. The next release of Elvis Love Songs is a classic money making exercise because it is virtually a replica of Elvis The 50 Greatest Love Songs ! My final personal thoughts are: Far less releases but far greater promotion and marketing to Elvis than we have ever had before. Greater emphasis on Elvis 1977 and to stop this myth of ''Elvis was only good in the 50s'', communication with Turner to release Elvis On Tour and cut out the unnecessary ''fillers'' that I have mentioned above. And before I contradict myself, i think my ideas should be spread over say a 5 year plan !!
dailyone wrote on December 08, 2004
bmg mainly look at the usa and not the rest of the world . in the states elvis is an image they buy posters etc and they spend their money travelling to graceland so the music comes 2nd . it is us around t he world who buy the records . again to change the way elvis sounds is to get the llc and rubberneckin sound . there again the money comes mainly from the states and they dont buy these recordings .
Lex wrote on December 08, 2004
Jim, the answer to your question about #1s is pretty simple... because ALLC is on it... no normal person wants those great hits spoilt with that carbage! Also the fact that many, many people already have one or more of the big hit compilations released before, like you mention later (how about contradiction?), might be of little influence. Not everyone gets a kick out of remastering, or even notice the difference. It still must be profitable, otherwise BMG wouldn't release those things over and over again. Carl, did the drink taste? Your rambling doesn't make sense at all. Who but a fan will notice that some of the #1s are outtakes? And Blue Hawaii a good album? Only because it was at #1 for so long? It was the same crap back then as it is now. LMAO
glennd wrote on December 08, 2004
What are you all talking about ? Blue Hawaii is the only good Elvis album ? I can´t believe it. I´m sure Carl didn´t only have the Blue Hawaii album. There are many others who would agree with me that there are many many good albums at Elvis lifetime and after Elvis lifetime. The only thing I have to worry about is that there are too much Elvis releases. Also my local Elvis store thinks the same way. And he is not the only store. Carl, if you are angry about the release don´t buy them ! TCB.
data wrote on December 08, 2004
To Lex , i believe 30N°1 sold 10 million copies just because ALLC was on it.A lot of young people like that song.Look at the dance charts and it is the only number by Elvis together with Rubbernecking you can dance to in modern places where kids go to dance.So it gave Elvis a new market but to keep intrest alive you have to bring something new, and that is what i like about remixised records. They do'nt have to sell a lot of them as a single but with the right promotion and airplay it keeps Elvis on the radio and TV and that is good marketing and can bring a new intrest in Elvis records.(ALLC dit just that) BMG should stick to one good album (one or two years) and give it the right promotiom. And yes Blue Hawaii is the best Elvis film album and to my opinion you also have From Elvis in Memphis, Memphis to Vegas Double album, Elvis is Back, T.T.Way it is, Live at Madison Square. And he has a lot of great songs on other albums,to me Elvis will be N°1 forever.
Lex wrote on December 08, 2004
There's always someone hungry :-). But... being the best Elvis film album doesn't make it a good album. Besides, best selling and best album are two completely different things.
data wrote on December 08, 2004
That's just the thing we need,keep people hungry and try to get a new generation interested in Elvis music. And Lex there is a difference between a film album and a studio album. And as a film album Blue Hawaii was a great album with good songs that where right for the film. And i forgot to name Elvis Country as a great album
Lex wrote on December 08, 2004
Well, just a matter of taste. I don't like BH, both the movie and soundtrack, at all. As a matter of fact I can only come up with two soundtracks that I really like, King Creole and Fun In Acapulco (not that that one is good, but I like the Spanish flavour).
glennd wrote on December 08, 2004
Lex, you prefer King Creole rather than Blue Hawaii. That´s o.k. Both belong to the favourite in the Elvis world since then. Fun in Acapulco is the same thing. But taste is different, so I didn´t like it as much as King Creole or even Viva Las Vegas. As I said, taste is different. So every one has it favourite soundtrack. Amen. TCB.
RobIreland wrote on December 08, 2004
How about just enjoying what we'r getting people. What if BMG decided to release nothing like it was in the eighties. Elvis music is all about enjoying the product for what it is, I think alot of you are thinking far too much and not taking time to enjoy what we'r getting. The single box set looks fantastic, but a single released every consecutive week im not too sure about !! Wouldent it have been great if it had have covered every single release , wow that would have been amazing! I would love to have got the Blue River single in this way and the original ALLC anyway, I know i am going to enjoy this box set.