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New Promo Set For 'Elvis At Stax'
The new Sony Legacy Promo set for 'Elvis At Stax' is out. The official release date for the set is a month away on August 6th.
I'm done too but let's not forget, YOU were the one calling people fools and idiots - hence my response.
But you sure get worked up over someone who sees a problem in the selling of the promos, you could argue that that is even more silly. And the "radiostation", are actually reaching over 200.000 potentional listeners, which give them a good oppotunity to promote the album. This is my last remark though, as I will not waste anymore time on this topic, I have stated my point of wiew, and your remarks are getting less and less relevant.
Firstly, yes I do think it'll mainly sell to collectors - best of luck to Sony but I'm sure they're not expecting huge sales - I'll be happy to be proved wrong. As for the promo issue - so someones a bit miffed they haven't got one for their "radio station" - aw shucks!. Most of the tracks are already freely available so how about playing those in the meantime. I'm an Elvis fan, I buy all major new releases, what I don't do is get all worked up about people selling a few promo discs - I'm sure Elvis isn't too bothered or for that matter, Sony. And WHAT exactly is "The Elvis World"? I think I'll stick to the real world.
Hi Viva, "who really thinks any radio station is going to plough their way through three CDs of fairly indifferent 40 year old Elvis tracks." Well,if you think that's the case, then pls explain for whom you think Sony made 'em ? For collectors only? This promoset cost Sony money and in my country Santa Claus is on december 6th ! I can hardly believe they released it and gave it away for free as a present to please some people who are not involved with radio programming, so I second Alan's point of view. Always El.
Viva, please try to understand that just because many people does something, that does not make it right (it is the old , and wrong, ad populam fallicy), and there Are people, and among them collectors like the two people who runs the elvisexpressradio (Joe Krein and Lee Dawson) who have a problem with it, because. THEY can't get their name on the "promo list". This has nothing to do with moral, but with What is best for the Elvis world. And if you think there are better and more relevant things to do, than adress something under a post about the same topic, well then be my guest and do so, I find nothing wrong with Trying to argue about something that I find relevant Elvis vice, on AN ELVIS SITE.
Nobody and I mean NOBODY in the record collecting world has a problem with buying/selling promos. It's always gone on, it always will. There are no losers, I mean let's get real here, who really thinks any radio station is going to plough their way through three CDs of fairly indifferent 40 year old Elvis tracks. What promos often do is fire up the collecting world which in turn helps stimulate record sales in general. There are plenty of things to moralize about in this world, selling promotional records isn't one of them.
So, what if before selling it, the 'promoter' did a back up copy and is using that to promote the launch. Technically the promo set is still being used for promotional purposes. You know what happens if you 'assume' something....
Do radio stations even need CDs anymore with today's technology? I have no idea.
Without saying that it is the same Viva, then let me point out, that the same arguement could be made by anyone selling drugs. But my reason for having a problem with it can be read in my former post. But let me sum up; a radio programe like Elvisexpressradio (that I whole heartly can recommend by the way), has a problem getting a promo set, because the label is tired of having them sold and uploaded on the net BEFORE they are sold, and this is hurting sales.
People sell promos because other people like to buy them. Why would ANYONE have a problem with that.
Well, if this is the first time you have ever noticed a promo set being sold in your life, even before the official release date, then I am shocked. It is no big deal. I have no idea what the seller's situation is, but obviously this promo set means nothing to him as a tool for promotion. Let's say he WON it in a radio station contest. Or maybe the radio station itself is a punk or metal station and they have no use for it. Or maybe it is a retail store that does not normally stock this particular category of merchandise. Who knows? And we certainly do not know by what means they received the promo set from Sony. Maybe is was strictly arbitrary, like Sony sends ALL their promo CDs to this establishment.
I cannot believe anyone even has a second thought about this. Obviously the seller finds it more valuable to sell than to use as a tool to sell regular copies, because it is doubtful they are expecting to have other copies to sell. Maybe their store (if they actually have a brick and mortar store) does not sell much in the way of Elvis CDs, or any CDs at all for that matter. Who knows?
The internet seems to be a place for self righteous indignation on all levels.
A radio station that plays Elvis would already have this material if they wanted it anyway. It has been available in some form since 1973-75. It is not like any real sonic or mastering differences are going to jump out at you on the highly compressed and processed FM radio format!
Amen to Alanfalk and Natha ! Always El.
AlanFalk, spot on. Obviously these people do not have the care for or the courtesy towards others; they only think of their own pocket.
I'm pretty sure that they didn't get the PROMO-set to sell it !! And as the real set isn't even for sale before August the 6, it makes no sense to sell it BEFORE that date. Roger Semon says that sales like this (and often as a consequence of this you can find them uploaded on youtube) makes the labels more hesitant to give out promo sets. Do you think that that is good for the promotion and sales ? and if the sales are low, do you think that that makes it more likely that the label will pay good money to the people who dig up Elvis treasures or that they will pay to have a new On Tour set made ? etc. The person who got the promo set should use it to promote it (something that in the long run will be goo for us all), or at least wait till a while after the official release before he/she sells it.
Do you realize how many HUNDREDS, maybe thousands of promo records and CDs I have bought in my lifetime? Used record stores are full of them, and you see them on Ebay quite often. It is nothing new. They are also what you get from radio stations as free contest prizes. After a record store or radio station has used them they get rid of them. If the product does not fit into their playlist or merchandise, they get rid of them without having used them at all. There have been a few Sony Complete Masters box set promos offered on Ebay too!
I ordered mine from Amazon.com and looking very much forward to getting it. Just heard that some idiot put his promotion set on ebay ! the reason they got it, was so that they could promote it, not sell it. This is one reason why some radio stations can't get one to promote with, the company doesn't want to see it sold instead of used for promotion. I really hope that no one will buy the promotion set from that fool.
I like the fact to put together the Stax sessions but the artwork is really bad and kitch, they could be use a picture from Elvis at the stax studio with a great Stax logo, the tracklist is good i think.
Yes, let's hope it sounds more like 2000's Promised Land CD or the 70s boxed set, than the recent 2009 Good Times. The original mixed of this material is quite muddy, Elvis' voice is too far back and has too much echo. The 2000 Promised Land CD was a vast improvement.
Really looking forward to this CD set. Hoping the music will be remastered and remixed for the best possible sound. I like the photo of Elvis on the CD album cover, but not crazy about the artwork.
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