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God Is The Bigger Elvis
This is the cover-art for the DVD edition of the 'God Is The Bigger Elvis' documentary DVD featuring Dolores Hart. The DVD is due October 10, 2012.
Source: elv75 / Updated: Aug 11, 2012
I worship Jesus Christ: He is my Lord and and savior! I participate in the candle light vigils out of respect and admiration for what Elvis accomplished in his lifetime. but that is just me. i am sure there are some who do, however it is unfair to assume everyone does.
The book title is provocative - no-one really believes that Elvis is bigger than God. But I must take issue with SteveV's rather tedious negativity. OK, Elvis did a lot of things that YOU don't like but everything he did entertained someone and so had value. Elvis touched me, his style, his singing, his life story. He was a man who did harm to no-one (but himself) and brought a lot of enjoyment to generations. I went to Memphis in 2002 for the 25th Anniversary and ended up joining the candlelit vigil; this was something I would never thought I would do, yet it was a truly wonderful experience. It was not "worship" it was honouring a man who made a difference to our lives - maybe not important - but a difference. It was remembering and keeping alive something good. There were 50000 people there that night, last week there were 75000. I'm sorry that so much of Elvis's output did not please SteveV, but I doubt whether anyone is going to lose much sleep about it.
Great story TCB1974! You have just proven an important thing: whenever one listens objectively to ELVIS one will be touched by it. I remember hearing ELVIS for the first time (Elvis Golden Records) I was like struck down by lightning. None of my peers were listening to ELVIS and it was sort of forbidden to listen to music from yesteryear. Yet I was turned into a die-hard fan almost instantaneously.
Elvis had an unique quality in the way he could express his feelings and inner workings through music. His appeal is not related to looking fantastic or having huge cultural impact in the fifties. When I was eight years old, I still remembering picking up an old cassette tape from my father's bin out of curiosity. It said nothing on the tape and I had no clue who that was on it either. I played and 'Fever' started which I after that played for 1 hour in a row. I remember the feeling this voice was something special and played the full tape for many weeks everyday till my parents asked me if I had turned into an Elvis fan. I asked who Elvis was and they said he was the singer I was listening to everyday. I remember asking if he was Dutch or foreign and if he was popular. My parents laughed of course.
Snoplow Floater, I share your thoughts on the movies! Even though I was around in those days. It is light musical style and you are right that a lot of those movies (by others) were hardly or never ridiculed. And whenever people mock his movies I name a long list of movies that are at least evenly or even more fluffy or senseless. And that silences them.
I don't like most of the sixties music, so I rather have 'He's your uncle...' than 'san francisco'. But that's all a matter of taste. And yes, Elvis was deeply spiritual. And above all a very humble person - that was part of his charisma.
We all know how deeply spiritual Elvis was, we know he would not agree with him being bigger, but he had tectonic power as a performer. I'm not bragging when i say its been thirty five years since i was affected by him and i'm not trying to steal anybody else's thunder, i am fully aware that some folks on here were buying his records in the fifties, so who am i. I just like talking Elvis and that's why i like saying stuff on here because i feel i am amongst kindred spirits. I reiterate the point that Elvis' music, is spiritual and does bring certain people to different realizations and i admit that i like some of his lower budget movies but then i wasn't around in the sixties when a new musical consciousness was happening, so did not have to suffer the same level of ridicule, we know he was embarrassed by them, but even he said that he thought they worked well on tv and they can be a lot of fun. Heck even i like, Uncle, not your Dad, when guys like Danny Kaye or Sinatra did silly movie songs, nobody was overly critical, but because of Elvis' groundbreaking achievement and mass influence on those that followed in his footsteps, i suppose different attitudes prevailed. Now i will shut up.
Okay Steve V thanks for elaborating on my question. Yet I think doing for someone you never met, but appreciate will not do harm either. A dear one doesn't have to be a near one. So ELVIS might be regarded as a friend, in a fashion at least. A one-sided friendship. And in that case I don't see any objection. On the other hand I fully agree with you that the way it is done seems more like worship and that is also why I never participated in those activities. Like you instigated, when it is overdone it doesn't contribute (though it keeps them away from doing bad things - smile). Also as I don't like gospel (as you might be aware of) I have very little with the way it is done. I also came to realise that many fans who participated are staunch gospel-fans! Maybe that explains a lot.
SteveV You obviously know the difference between a song like Little Sister & a song like He's Your Uncle Not Your Dad. One song makes you proud being an Elvis fan, the other makes you cringe. I think you know what I am saying.
Yes Natha you are correct but as you say a near & dear one, meaning a close friend or relative. To do it for an entertainer or a person you never met or knew is a bit strange and seems so to most of society. I didnt like being around those people the time I went, I could not relate to their 'worship' when they didnt even know what Reconsider Baby was. To most of the world, they are kooks and the media feeds into this with their reports from Memphis.
Steve V, correct me if I am wrong but I understood that in Christianity it is a common practice to burn a candle for a dear and near one who passed away. In other societies it is also common to do it every year on the day of the passing away. Not to worship but becauseof fond remembrance and well wishing. Anyway, I think no one should consider another an idiot (a harmful activity) just because one is doing a harmless activity. Of course I readily agree with you that ELVIS is not a religion. Very often one reads that people experience the singing of ELVIS is as if he is singing to the person. So one may sense of strong friendship towards ELVIS. Hence the emotion that is aroused.
Sorry, worshipping an entertainer, or another human being other than maybe a parent , is sick & not natural. Idolize, yes, but worship? Thats a very strong word. Those people carrying candles during the vigil look like worshipers and to most of society they look like idiots. It made me very uncomfortable to witness that once. Elvis is not a religion after all.
Steve V, i am an Elvis worshiper, a jerry Lee Worshiper, A Dylan Worshiper, A Sex Pistol worshiper, a Hank Williams worshiper and a Hedrix worshiper, to name just a few. For the record Clapton is no match for Jimi.Was it not Solomon who said sing Hallelujah. I do not comment on this forum to upset people, i come on here because i've been an Elvis fan for thirty five years and i am very proud of that and i do believe that, that is my right, in a democratic society. My first musical hero who led me to all the rest. So if people do not like my comments, then just leave me alone. I never insult anyone on here and there is always that nasty undercurrent running through some of the comments on here, but never from me. I am an Elvis worshiper, maybe that's what they should have called the new album. No hard feelings, remember Elvis was all about feeling good. If you do not realize that by now, then stick with Clapton and The Beatles!!!
Snowplow, luckily you won't be sent to jail for two years. Anyway, I can understand your remark as it was not meant like some here tend to interpret. I wonder if they also get upset when people talk about programmers bible, ... bible etc. (Interesting only bible is used in that sense!) Then programmers (or programming worshippers?) think their texts are better. Let's nail these peopleto the wall too. Eh . . . Lighten up guys. And yes Clapton was better on the guitar. Still I agree that Elvis is bigger than him.
Snowplow - I know many guitar players, and to them Clapton is much bigger than Elvis, always, yes even on Aug 16th. I'm sure to Beatles fans, Lennon is bigger than Elvis but do these fans ever really think thier idols could be bigger than God? Only an Evis worshiper ( I hate that term) would think Elvis is bigger than God. I agree with oldscudder, its kind of an inept statement.
benny scott, Lennon had a great sense of humour and it got him in a lot of trouble, he just said what was on his mind, nobody batted an eyelid in England, it was really the Americans who took offence, just cultural divides at the time. Roll on John.
Hey theoldscudder, i thought Eric Clapton was God, obviously Elvis is bigger than Eric Clapton. Natha, you speak like a poet, very profound and true.
snowplow floater, interesting statement indeed, I absolutely agree with it's content EXCEPT for the "today August 16th, Elvis is bigger than God." With all due respect, but man, you can't be serious ? Reminds me of John Lennon, stating The Beatles were more popular than Jezus. Always El.
Snowplow Floater, an interesting statement. As they are both beings in this universe they are limited and as such their importance goes as far as people credit them. And ELVIS got world wide an enormous attention (maybe less in his country of birth as they rather ridicule one of their heroes?). Moreover it is interesting that ELVIS at least realised, accepted and declared his flaws.
snowplow floater On Aug. 16 Elvis is bigger than god? Really? This is the all time dumbest remark I have ever read on this site. Even dumber than the dumb remarks I make from time to time. Do you really mean what you stated?
Elvis would agree that God should be bigger than Elvis, But not today August 16th, Elvis is bigger than God. I hate all these religious segregations, putting us into separate boxes, yeah i was raised a Roman Catholic too, does that mean i should only associate with people from a similar brainwash. Forgive me, i've been listening to too much Johnny Rotten singing 'Religion'. Check it out!! I consider myself a human being first, which means i get on with other human beings, regardless of race or creed. I'm sure Elvis taught me that, with songs like 'If i can Dream'
Okay, I get it. It was stated to be a donation. Only wondered about the vow (I did not know what it is called) Lefty referred to. Of course I understand that one has to pay to celebrities. Just as Steve V mentioned. Maybe it's their main or only income at a certain stage of their lives. Thanks for explaining, guys.
So this is one possible outcome of Change of Habit...
Dolores Hart is a Roman Catholic Nun, which means that she has taken a "vow of poverty." Her "vow" prohibits her from earning an income. As such, all of her needs are supplied by the Church. So yes, whatever "donation" received for her autograph went straight to the Church, in addition to all proceeds from the documentary.
Tony C is quite right. These movie & sports conventions have been going on for years and is a way for a fan to meet a person they admire. They all charge for autographs because to most of them, that is how they have an income since no one wants to hire them for anything else. Its up to you if want to pay for this. In the case of Dolores Hart, there was a big sign on her table stating what the money was going to be used for. It was a reasonable fee and she certainly wasn't pocketing it. In contrast, Ann-Margret appeared at the same venue 2 yrs earlier was VERY expensive to meet, had all kinds of rules on what she wanted to sign and no photos were allowed! I found her to be extremely unreasonable and I didnt bother. At the same show as Dolores, I also met Ernie Borgnine and was very glad I did.
Everybody pays for autographs at collectors shows, that is why celebrities travel great distances to them and sit at a table for a couple of days meeting people. To them, it's work. In the case of Mother Dolores, the money goes to the Religious order she belongs to.
Iliked her as an actress. I find it strange that one has to pay for a signature. I thought christrian religious people were also bigger than that.
Delores Hart is a very nice person. It's funny but the night that SteveV paid for the autograph I was kept awake by howling dogs or maybe it was someone incessently crying. Not sure I may have been dreaming. The book is worth a read.
I was able to meet Dolores Hart last year at a fan collectors show. She was appearing trying to raise money for her monastery. She was very nice but so soft spoken I could hardly hear her. Amazing she was a movie star. She signed a Loving You lobby card for me for a fee.
I was surprised to see that this movie was nominated for an Academy Award (Best Documentary). Given Elvis' love of spirituality, I bet he wouldn't have minded the name association in the title. But alas, one can only speculate.
Good documentary. Got a chance to see it on HBO cable. Amazing that she would walk away from her acting career, in her prime and live a life with the church. Personally, I feel she could have done both. But to each, his or her, own.
I enjoyed this and love Dolores Hart! There's not really a lot of Elvis in this though
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