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FTDs Frankie And Johnny Soundtrack CD Re-released
FTDs Frankie and Johnny Soundtrack CD will be re-released when FTD 'have made the neccessary corrections'. This will be 'probably in September/October'.
For me too, I just can't wait. I have seen this movie a dosent of time...lol :-) Well, not a nessary realease, but I guess fine for the colecters. Thats is also a importent part of the FTD label!
this will be the release of the year for me!..
If Ftd was more open with the fans and said what was coming out months in advance,then rumors would be a thing of the past. They are suppose to be a collectors label, unless ftd wants to replace f&j for the fans who payed there hard earned money then its best if this is just a rumor. Stop useing lene for your sound and use vic, kevann or someone who knows what they are doing, no excuses just do it. Im more of a fan of the people than a fan of ftd,i believe in quality not quanity.
I'm afraid this all a pure rumor guys. Your website host should make" the necessary corrections"
I am Buffalo-Horn, 2nd pressing of 'Girl Happy' FTD release has NCB printed after the FTD,RCA and BMG logo and the first pressing has not,also disc on second pressing is different to first also,check www.Elvisoncd to see the difference and a few technical notes.
Many thanks to Tornado for answering my query re the reissue of "Girl Happy" Is there anything on the artwork or CD that tells you the album is the 2nd pressing I wonder? Now I know the sound has been improved I may well buy it, but I don't want to buy the original issue twice in error!
Aren't the Sony Vic Asesini versions of Girl Happy and Frankie and Johnny, the "Definative" version, sans outtakes of course?
Elvis didn't care much about what was released for most of his career. And RCA (as most, if not all, record companies) only cared about the money. No wonder his album (and sometimes his single) releases rarely made any sense. Just songs put together for loyal and casual fans to buy. Still the same today, how many Christmas, Gospel or greatest hits cds do we get year after year? What's the point? Same old songs...
As for Frankie & Johnny. FTD should offer to replace the cd for those who bought it the first time. Or at least a discount whould be nice! Unfortunately it's not going to happen. If the sound quality is noticably better they have a chance of milking me again. I admit it, I am a fool...
Dgirl Elvis didnt care,lets be honest he didnt,he did at one time but lost his way and the whole col. thing was such a joke.
I would also like to know how someone is suppose know what version of girl happy they are getting,places sale the old stock,thus the reason for replacing my disc i payed good money for,ftd wants to pick what they replace and ignore the other times they put out bad products,but i do realize this will never change,the tone was set long ago and its get the money from the suckers.
The re-release of Girl Happy was upgraded soundwise. It's not quantum leap but it's noticeable. I'm glad I bought it. Now about F&J, I hope it's not just a rumour.
The posting about the Pickwick F&J album with the Elvis Now cover gave me a good laugh, so thank you. Not only did it not make any sense, that release was prob the worst example of how Elvis' label totally disrepected his music & catalog. The cover had nothing to do with the songs and it was already used on a mainstream release!! It was clear the label & Col did not give a hoot about anything other than the quick buck. Who controlled these releases? Did Elvis even know about it or care? Doubt it.
Does anyone know exactly how the reissued Girl Happy differed from the first release? I've heard several different reasons!
Buy what you have because they decide to make it a 2cd set? Ftd is a strange little label,lots of other great music,they just keep in milking,its just down right silly.
If FTD take this oppurtunity to turn this into a 2 CD set, with further outtakes, then I'll be first in line to buy it. If however its just a re release of the single CD then what's the point? We'll have to wait and see what these "neccessary corrections" actually are, then I'll decide whether or not to buy it.
In my opinion, Ernst & co. should replace the disc we have with a new disc that has the "neccessary corrections". I know of two instances where they replaced a 'defective FTD disc. Why not this one ? Why should the fans have to pay for someone's mistake ? I won't hold my breath - they didn't offer a corrected "Girl Happy" when they found it to be in error. What'cha say Ernst ? Are you a stand up fellow or the valedictorian of the Col. Parker Graduate schoo of Business ?
The "Frankie and Johnny" soundtrack album was re-issued by Pickwick in 1976, before Elvis' death, in the new sleeve. I am not aware of it being a particularly big seller, it did not hit the Billboard top 200. I can't really see the connection to Bob Dylan and The Beatles, as mentioned in the last posting, maybe it is meant to say that Elvis was making better records in 1965 than either of them. Each to their own.
I'm sure this album was reissued after The King's passing with like the Elvis Now pic on the cover and was one of his best selling albums. We Know the rest, it probably sold more than 'Highway 61 Revisited' back in 1965 and we also know there are a cartel of people who will do anything to exalt a certain band, who were mere boys compared to the guy who sang "Hard Luck" and actually came from there and knew what it meant, you know the Delta Blues, Elvis Country, Saints go marching in, a million miles from the Mersey shore.
Most sountracks include songs/music written and recorded for the movie. Often this music loses its appeal (if any) when heard outside the context of the film. This is true for a lot of the songs Elvis recorded during his 'hollywood' years. If we want to compare Elvis & Beatles in the sixties we should be looking at his non soundtrack recordings of the time but there weren't too many of them mainly because Elvis wasn't really interested. Could his soundtracks be better? They could and they should better (and fewer)... If only he cared more about his music back then...
Well, no one is perfect!!
SteveV I forgot Frankie & Johnny came out about the same time as Rubber Soul. Back in the day I bought Frankie & not Rubber Soul because I was young & very much a loyal fan of the Kings. I have played Rubber Soul numerous times as well as Revolver in the few years. I have not played a any 60's soundtracks in the past 20 years. This Frankie & Johnny album shows just how out of touch the Elvis product was for the times. Elvis should have ended the films once he returned from the army. Had he his legacy would be regarded in a more favorible light. Also his acting as he would have only acted in 4 movies which were better than the product he put out in the 60's.
knowing FTD, this re-release will be missing tracks that appeared on the original issue of this disc. anything to rip the fans off.
jack - really? I assume you were a kid when Elvis died like so many on here. I'm always reading how people got to know Elvis thru their parents, a Camden, etc. Like the saying goes, you had to be there. I grew up with the 50's and did not abandon Elvis ever. I bought em all, saw every movie, etc. As the 60's progressed, Elvis did not. Was I also buying Beatles records? Of course, because it was good music, as were many other 60's artists. How can you compare an album like this with Rubber Soul ? Musically you cant. You can be loyal all you want, I'll listen with my ears. As far as keeping the legacy alive today, you may be right. I hardly buy anything anymore because I have all the music that interests me and I dont believe in spending for the same product countless times or falling for whatever hype they use to sell.
I'm with you Bajo.I wrote to Ernst many time to suggest he should have used the remix of DF for the FTD versions of HS & FJ. By far the DF versions are the best mix. And I know a lot of well informed and mature fans think so too. The piano intro on Beginiers's Luck, all kind of little details etc... I really hope he does. But again, while making an annoucement, why not explain exactly what we can expect from the new one?
When it comes down to bootlegs I can imagine that after many a year they managed to re-release a CD and promote it as better (or superior) sound, but from FTD I cannot. Especially as (1) they have the original tapes, (2) they use professional and sofisticated instruments and (3) this type of releases are no hurry after all. Errors in text etc. are there in FTD releases, as is also found in other labels. Sometimes I read reactions in terms of Rif Off. Re-releasing this in just a few years (under the pretext: necessary corrections) means to me that this WAS a rip off. I have to agree with Mature-Elvis-Fan that we should be given the chance to 'trade' this one. Anyway I won't buy this re-release.
As with most soundtrack albums there are two or three good songs on here among the sub standard movie fare (I'm thinking of PDSLM and WEWLF for example, and also SIO and HL which I qute like.) But my biggest problem with this album is the sound which has always been terrible. I'm no expert and usually I'm not too bothered about the difference between MP3 quality vs FLAC or crisp sounding high ends or whatever. But the sound on this album is flatter than Utah, very unpleasant to listen to. I never go round to buying the DF versions which I'm tempted to track down now after reading bajo's helpul comments below. But if the feedback is good on the sound on this new version I may just wait and pick this up instead so I can finally hear a decent recording of the few songs I actually like. I may even listen to the whole album more than once this time. :O
jack409 - what an absolute load of twaddle. The Presley legacy would not be here today if it were not for the loyalty (and continued loyalty I would hasten to add) of the 'old' fans. You 'new' fans wouldn't have anything had us oldies not purchased the original albums and gone to see the movies. We didn't desert Elvis for the beatles, Elvis had (and still does have) a much larger fan base in the 60's than the beatles ever had. Whilst our maturing years may call us to question the quality of 'some' of his (or his advisors) selections please do not question our loyalty to Elvis and his music. We continue to buy FTD and other releases albeit on a more selective basis in the pursuit of variation of, or updates to our collections, at no small cost I would add. Some fans loyalty to Elvis has cost them many thousands of $, £'s Euros. the purchase of an album in the 50's and 60's were what would be termed a 'considered' purchase i.e . this would would represent a large chunk of most people's weekly income... unlike today.That is comitment and loyalty for you.
So lets trade in the crappy version they sold us the first time around,come on people stop being suckers.
Originally, F&J and Harum Scrum were the two poorest sounding soundracks ever released by the time they came out.
Why they were mixed the way they were only those who made it know. But, by the time Ernst re-released these two in the DF series, they were actually remixed and thus sounded like "normal" soundtracks. I was so pleasantly surprised by those two soundtracks then. Finally they sounded like I always hoped they would appear some day. So when it was time to pick up the FTD of the same I was so let down to find that Ernst used the original, poor sounding album masters. I hope the rerelease will contain the DF mix with the latest technology available! The same goes for HS. As for the music, I file it under soundtracks. Not Elvis Presley music. But, in the vein of...: "As sung by Elvis Presley".
I don't care what anyone says I enjoy Frankie and Johnny and own the original Frankie and Johnny FTD release. It's not my favorite Elvis CD but it's a soundtrack and movie that I enjoy. I find it to be a very eclectic CD. There are some really good songs including Beginner's Luck, Please Don't Stop Loving Me, Shout it Out, and Hard Luck. People always trash FJ and HS and KC but all 3 are enjoyable to me. Sure they aren' t the Memphis Recordings from 1969 but they are still enjoyable with some strong tracks>
I agree totallly with you jack 409, it's so politically corrected to say that Harum Scarum and Frankie And Johnny are more or less crap, substandarded music. Some think they know better than others. If FTD re-release F&J it's for a good reason. And eveyone is free to buy or not One should ask the question why to FTD? Aand it's a shame that the announcement is made without the full picture. Girl Happy was also announced without any details. It's frustrating, just give the whole story guys at FTD when you make an announcement. Or I'll think Colonel Parker is not really dead.
Yes definitive for how long?
This is by far the album I like the least by Elvis, Harum Scarum, and Gril Happy follow. I did not buy the updated Girl Happy, and I will not be buying this one. But I am glad it is available for those who want the most definitive version, I can appreciate that.
Actually all Elvis studio albums should be in print and not cheap crappy import version. Then they could have made 2 cd outtake sets from differt movies,not rerelease each soundtrack with very little new stuff. But i know thats crazy think of all the money they would have missed out on. Paying $30 plus for music have only to get a few new outtakes of songs that are not great to begin with.
Lol ftd and there details,ernie release the good stuff then no one will bother you and you can go back to just making more great hits compilations! I feel sorry for those who buy thid again,ftd does know there fanbase
And I for one think it's nice. When I discovered the FTD-label I was envy, cause I couldn't find and couldn't afford those releases and I would give anything just to can have some of them - especially movie soundtracks, when they were released as 1 CD. Later I became able to put my fingers on some of them (not much, because of my material situation), I enjoy them. For me it was a great deal to buy the Girl Happy FTD re-issue. And, what's more, if something (mixing, sound, artwork) is being upgraded - I'll go for it. Let's not forget about those, who wasn't fortunate to discover Elvis in the past or obtain every single LP/MC/CD/DVD etc. Cheers! ;)
Necessary corrections? What bunk, they must not have made enough money off the first release, They should release all of the tracks they deem releasable at one time for each album, then if they find something that should be released that hasn't been put just those tracks on a "Potlucks style" release. It gets tiresome buying the same tracks again and again (not to mention the pain my bank account feels).
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